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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@gmail.com>
To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Forget dormant UTXOs without confiscating bitcoin
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 06:34:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADm_Wca0cWRvcVaJ+p47A49yffQ1vP=u4807j7axn=mdBdsUGQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151220112454.GB16187@muck>

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On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 6:24 AM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> What I proprosed is that a consensus-critical maximum UTXO age be part
> of the protocol; UTXO's younger than that age are expected to be cached.
> For UTXO's older than that age, they can be dropped from the cache,
> however to spend them you are required to provide the proof, and that
> proof counts as blockchain space to account for the fact that they do
> need to be broadcast on the network.


Yes, this is almost what -has- to happen in the long term.

Ideally we should start having wallets generate those proofs now, and then
introduce the max-age as a second step as a planned hard fork a couple
years down the line.

However,
1) There is also the open question of "grandfathered" UTXOs - for those
wallets generated in 2009, buried in a landfill and then dug out 10 years
ago

2) This reverses the useful minimization attribute of HD wallets - "just
backup the seed"

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-20 11:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-12 20:09 [bitcoin-dev] Forget dormant UTXOs without confiscating bitcoin jl2012
2015-12-12 23:01 ` gb
2015-12-13  1:00   ` Vincent Truong
2015-12-13  2:07     ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-12-13  8:13       ` Chris Priest
2015-12-13  8:18         ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-12-13  9:17           ` Chris Priest
2015-12-13  9:24             ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-12-13 18:11             ` jl2012
2015-12-13 21:20               ` Ricardo Filipe
2015-12-13 21:36               ` Tier Nolan
2015-12-20 11:24       ` Peter Todd
2015-12-20 11:34         ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2015-12-20 11:43           ` s7r
2015-12-20 16:30           ` Chris Pacia
2015-12-20 16:35             ` Peter Todd
2015-12-21  3:34               ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-21  3:23           ` Tom Harding
2015-12-13 16:14 ` Danny Thorpe

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