From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@gmail.com>
To: Jeremy Rubin <jeremy.l.rubin.travel@gmail.com>
Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Defining a min spec
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 23:25:03 -0400 [thread overview]
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If the freedom to pick architecture exists, Moxie is a nice, compact, easy
to audit alternative:
http://moxielogic.org/blog/pages/architecture.html
https://github.com/jgarzik/moxiebox
Scaling can occur at the core level, rather than hyper-pipelining, keeping
the architecture itself nice and clean and simple.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:13 PM, Jeremy Rubin <
jeremy.l.rubin.travel@gmail.com> wrote:
> Might I suggest that the min-spec, if developed, target the RISC-V Rocket
> architecture (running on FPGA, I suppose) as a reference point for
> performance? This may be much lower performance than desirable, however, it
> means that we don't lock people into using large-vendor chipsets which have
> unknown, or known to be bad, security properties such as Intel AMT.
>
> In general, targeting open hardware seems to me to be more critical than
> performance metrics for the long term health of Bitcoin, however,
> performance is still important.
>
> Does anyone know how the RISC-V FPGA performance stacks up to, say, a
> Raspberry Pi?
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Owen Gunden <ogunden@phauna.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm also a user who runs a full node, and I also like this idea. I think
>> Gavin has done some back-of-the-envelope calculations around this stuff,
>> but nothing so clearly defined as what you propose.
>>
>> On 07/02/2015 08:33 AM, Mistr Bigs wrote:
>>
>>> I'm an end user running a full node on an aging laptop.
>>> I think this is a great suggestion! I'd love to know what system
>>> requirements are needed for running Bitcoin Core.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Jean-Paul Kogelman
>>> <jeanpaulkogelman@me.com <mailto:jeanpaulkogelman@me.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m a game developer. I write time critical code for a living and
>>> have to deal with memory, CPU, GPU and I/O budgets on a daily basis.
>>> These budgets are based on what we call a minimum specification (of
>>> hardware); min spec for short. In most cases the min spec is based
>>> on entry model machines that are available during launch, and will
>>> give the user an enjoyable experience when playing our games.
>>> Obviously, we can turn on a number of bells and whistles for people
>>> with faster machines, but that’s not the point of this mail.
>>>
>>> The point is, can we define a min spec for Bitcoin Core? The number
>>> one reason for this is: if you know how your changes affect your
>>> available budgets, then the risk of breaking something due to
>>> capacity problems is reduced to practically zero.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-03 3:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-02 4:04 [bitcoin-dev] Defining a min spec Jean-Paul Kogelman
2015-07-02 7:18 ` Henning Kopp
2015-07-02 8:33 ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2015-07-02 12:33 ` Mistr Bigs
2015-07-02 14:52 ` Owen Gunden
2015-07-03 3:13 ` Jeremy Rubin
2015-07-03 3:25 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2015-07-03 4:19 ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2015-07-03 5:33 ` Jeremy Rubin
2015-07-03 6:18 ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2015-07-03 10:55 ` Jeff Garzik
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