From: Tier Nolan <tier.nolan@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] request BIP number for: "Support for Datastream Compression"
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 09:44:11 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAE-z3OUB-se_HUvW2NLjWt=0d5sgMiPEciu0hLzr_HQN0m9fqQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOxbZtTUrZwDfy_jTbs60n=K8RKDGg5X0gkLsh-OX3ikLf1FQ@mail.gmail.com>
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The network protocol is not quite consensus critical, but it is important.
Two implementations of the decompressor might not be bug for bug
compatible. This (potentially) means that a block could be designed that
won't decode properly for some version of the client but would work for
another. This would fork the network.
A "raw" network library is unlikely to have the same problem.
Rather than just compress the stream, you could compress only block
messages only. A new "cblock" message could be created that is a
compressed block. This shouldn't reduce efficiency by much.
If a client fails to decode a cblock, then it can ask for the block to be
re-sent as a standard "block" message.
This means that it is a pure performance improvement. If problems occur,
then the client can just switch back to uncompressed mode for that block.
You should look into the block relay system. This gives a larger
improvement than simply compressing the stream. The main benefit is
latency but it means that actual blocks don't have to be sent, so gives a
potential 50% compression ratio. Normally, a node receives all the
transactions and then those transactions are included later in the block.
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Johnathan Corgan via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 5:58 PM, gladoscc via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>
>> I think 25% bandwidth savings is certainly considerable, especially for
>> people running full nodes in countries like Australia where internet
>> bandwidth is lower and there are data caps.
>>
>
> This reinforces the idea that such trade-off decisions should be be local
> and negotiated between peers, not a required feature of the network P2P.
>
>
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-09 19:18 [bitcoin-dev] request BIP number for: "Support for Datastream Compression" Peter Tschipper
2015-11-09 20:41 ` Johnathan Corgan
2015-11-09 21:04 ` Bob McElrath
2015-11-10 1:58 ` gladoscc
2015-11-10 5:40 ` Johnathan Corgan
2015-11-10 9:44 ` Tier Nolan [this message]
[not found] ` <5642172C.701@gmail.com>
2015-11-10 16:17 ` Peter Tschipper
2015-11-10 16:21 ` Jonathan Toomim
2015-11-10 16:30 ` Tier Nolan
2015-11-10 16:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2015-11-10 17:09 ` Peter Tschipper
2015-11-11 18:35 ` Peter Tschipper
2015-11-11 18:49 ` Marco Pontello
2015-11-11 19:05 ` Jonathan Toomim
2015-11-13 21:58 ` [bitcoin-dev] Block Compression (Datastream Compression) test results using the PR#6973 compression prototype Peter Tschipper
2015-11-18 14:00 ` [bitcoin-dev] More findings: " Peter Tschipper
2015-11-11 19:11 ` [bitcoin-dev] request BIP number for: "Support for Datastream Compression" Peter Tschipper
2015-11-28 14:48 ` [bitcoin-dev] further test results for : "Datastream Compression of Blocks and Tx's" Peter Tschipper
2015-11-29 0:30 ` Jonathan Toomim
2015-11-29 5:15 ` Peter Tschipper
[not found] ` <56421F1E.4050302@gmail.com>
2015-11-10 16:46 ` [bitcoin-dev] request BIP number for: "Support for Datastream Compression" Peter Tschipper
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