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boundary="0000000000009890fd05c0b5347d" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 10:25:59 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposed BIP editor: Kalle Alm X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2021 10:16:31 -0000 --0000000000009890fd05c0b5347d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ACK adding Kalle On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 5:51 PM Antoine Riard via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > Hi Luke, > > For the records and the subscribers of this list not following > #bitcoin-core-dev, this mail follows a discussion which did happen during > yesterday irc meetings. > Logs here : http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/2021-04-22.log > > I'll reiterate my opinion expressed during the meeting. If this proposal > to extend the bip editorship membership doesn't satisfy parties involved = or > anyone in the community, I'm strongly opposed to have the matter sliced b= y > admins of the Bitcoin github org. I believe that defect or uncertainty in > the BIP Process shouldn't be solved by GH janitorial roles and I think > their roles don't bestow to intervene in case of loopholes. Further, you > have far more contributors involved in the BIP Process rather than only > Bitcoin Core ones. FWIW, such precedent merits would be quite similar to > lobby directly GH staff... > > Unless we harm Bitcoin users by not acting, I think we should always be > respectful of procedural forms. And in the lack of such forms, stay patie= nt > until a solution satisfy everyone. > > I would recommend the BIP editorship, once extended or not, to move in it= s > own repository in the future. > > Cheers, > Antoine > > > > > Le jeu. 22 avr. 2021 =C3=A0 22:09, Luke Dashjr via bitcoin-dev < > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> a =C3=A9crit : > >> Unless there are objections, I intend to add Kalle Alm as a BIP editor t= o >> assist in merging PRs into the bips git repo. >> >> Since there is no explicit process to adding BIP editors, IMO it should >> be >> fine to use BIP 2's Process BIP progression: >> >> > A process BIP may change status from Draft to Active when it achieves >> > rough consensus on the mailing list. Such a proposal is said to have >> > rough consensus if it has been open to discussion on the development >> > mailing list for at least one month, and no person maintains any >> > unaddressed substantiated objections to it. >> >> A Process BIP could be opened for each new editor, but IMO that is >> unnecessary. If anyone feels there is a need for a new Process BIP, we >> can go >> that route, but there is prior precedent for BIP editors appointing new >> BIP >> editors, so I think this should be fine. >> >> Please speak up soon if you disagree. >> >> Luke >> _______________________________________________ >> bitcoin-dev mailing list >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >> > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > --=20 Best, =C3=81d=C3=A1m --0000000000009890fd05c0b5347d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">ACK adding Kalle</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div = dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 5:51 PM Antoine Ri= ard via bitcoin-dev <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation= .org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockq= uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p= x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>= Hi Luke,<br><br></div>For the records and the subscribers of this list not = following #bitcoin-core-dev, this mail follows a discussion which did happe= n during yesterday irc meetings.<br>Logs here : <a href=3D"http://gnusha.or= g/bitcoin-core-dev/2021-04-22.log" target=3D"_blank">http://gnusha.org/bitc= oin-core-dev/2021-04-22.log</a><br><br></div>I'll reiterate my opinion = expressed during the meeting. If this proposal to extend the bip editorship= membership doesn't satisfy parties involved or anyone in the community= , I'm strongly opposed to have the matter sliced by admins of the Bitco= in github org. I believe that defect or uncertainty in the BIP Process shou= ldn't be solved by GH janitorial roles and I think their roles don'= t bestow to intervene in case of loopholes. Further, you have far more cont= ributors involved in the BIP Process rather than only Bitcoin Core ones. FW= IW, such precedent merits would be quite similar to lobby directly GH staff= ...<br><br></div><div>Unless we harm Bitcoin users by not acting, I think w= e should always be respectful of procedural forms. And in the lack of such = forms, stay patient until a solution satisfy everyone.<br><br></div><div>I = would recommend the BIP editorship, once extended or not, to move in its ow= n repository in the future.<br><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div>Antoine= <br></div><div><br><br><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div = dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Le=C2=A0jeu. 22 avr. 2021 =C3=A0=C2=A022:0= 9, Luke Dashjr via bitcoin-dev <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linu= xfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a= >> a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style= =3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding= -left:1ex">Unless there are objections, I intend to add Kalle Alm as a BIP = editor to <br> assist in merging PRs into the bips git repo.<br> <br> Since there is no explicit process to adding BIP editors, IMO it should be = <br> fine to use BIP 2's Process BIP progression:<br> <br> > A process BIP may change status from Draft to Active when it achieves<= br> > rough consensus on the mailing list. Such a proposal is said to have<b= r> > rough consensus if it has been open to discussion on the development<b= r> > mailing list for at least one month, and no person maintains any<br> > unaddressed substantiated objections to it.<br> <br> A Process BIP could be opened for each new editor, but IMO that is <br> unnecessary. If anyone feels there is a need for a new Process BIP, we can = go <br> that route, but there is prior precedent for BIP editors appointing new BIP= <br> editors, so I think this should be fine.<br> <br> Please speak up soon if you disagree.<br> <br> Luke<br> _______________________________________________<br> bitcoin-dev mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">= bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" = rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail= man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br> </blockquote></div> _______________________________________________<br> bitcoin-dev mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">= bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" = rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail= man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br> </blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"= class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div= dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><span style=3D"font-size:13.3333px">Best,<br>=C3=81d= =C3=A1m</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> --0000000000009890fd05c0b5347d--