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From: Kevin Greene <kgreenek@gmail.com>
To: Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr.org>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] The Bitcoin Node Market
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:49:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEY8wq4SOddGUJNqkrdhhfQEn4tXehCWiifk-P=PYUdfFcXFTQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201506160341.10994.luke@dashjr.org>

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr.org> wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:30:44 AM Kevin Greene wrote:
> > Would SPV wallets have to pay to connect to the network too? From the
> > user's perspective, it would be somewhat upsetting (and confusing) to see
> > your balance slowly draining every time you open your wallet app. It
> would
> > also tie up outputs every time you open up your wallet. You may go to pay
> > for something in a coffee shop, only to find that you can't spend your
> > bitcoin because the wallet had to create a transaction to pay to sync
> with
> > the network.
> >
> > Also, users of centralized wallet services like Coinbase would not have
> to
> > pay that fee; but users of native wallets like breadwallet would have no
> > such option. This incentivizes users to use centralized wallets.
> >
> > So this is kind of imposing a worse user experience on users who want to
> > use bitcoin the "right" way. That doesn't seem like a good thing to me :/
>
> SPV isn't the "right" way either ;)
>

​Hah, fair enough, there is no such thing as the "right" way to do
anything. But I still think punishing users who use SPV wallets is ​a
less-than-ideal way to incentive people to run full nodes. Right now SPV is
the best way that exists for mobile phones to participate in the network in
a decentralized way. This proposal makes the user experience for mobile
wallets a little more confusing and annoying.


>
> If you're running a full node (the real "right way"), you should be able to
> earn more bitcoins than you pay out.
>
> Luke
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-16  3:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-14 21:23 [Bitcoin-development] comments on BIP 100 Adam Back
2015-06-14 22:23 ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-14 23:58   ` Adam Back
2015-06-15  0:53     ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-15  0:55       ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-15  4:11       ` Peter Todd
2015-06-15  4:43         ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-15  9:27     ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-15  9:39       ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-15 10:24       ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-15 10:36         ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-15 10:40           ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-15 10:50             ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-15 11:16               ` Rebroad (sourceforge)
2015-06-15 17:53                 ` Raystonn .
2015-06-15 18:14                   ` Adam Back
2015-06-15 18:57                     ` [Bitcoin-development] The Bitcoin Node Market Raystonn .
2015-06-15 19:18                       ` sickpig
2015-06-15 19:36                         ` Raystonn .
2015-06-15 20:12                           ` sickpig
2015-06-16  3:30                             ` Kevin Greene
2015-06-16  3:41                               ` Luke Dashjr
2015-06-16  3:49                                 ` Kevin Greene [this message]
2015-06-16  4:05                                   ` Kevin Greene
2015-06-16  4:12                                   ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-16  5:28                                   ` justusranvier
2015-06-16  5:30                                     ` Potter QQ
2015-06-16  7:55                                     ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-16 13:32                                       ` justusranvier
2015-06-16 17:04                                         ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-16 17:22                                         ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-16 15:52                                       ` devrandom
2015-06-15  4:43   ` [Bitcoin-development] comments on BIP 100 Peter Todd
2015-06-15  9:06     ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-15  2:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-15  2:44   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-16  4:38 [Bitcoin-development] The Bitcoin Node Market Raystonn

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