From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74FA586 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:15:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-oi0-f47.google.com (mail-oi0-f47.google.com [209.85.218.47]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB147118 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by oiew67 with SMTP id w67so77696583oie.2 for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 02:15:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pPMx8UyWHZwQI3QmLilyS7pGjxrCWAkw7KllzWzYne0=; b=X0lMzLZOvHhWD3IOMtTn8JLMNn2IklWhsZvjJKh3WbKpFeY7kDptbwfou2EWpA8BNC 1WVfrISl+QHugcS65QBRwp30p7+OEv1SrHLkodjoaG6ESvO+CbnJyK4Ds0K4uWzzk/TT 5CYpQQXF6bH/NY3x4wH4UhdBaApWZV6kDL1o5Xr1ULWH6TfF8OOfQkB13BqQy43fACCp X264zZ4Es9Upi6I34PCc7EqIAHt+ltEK+F3W2vuAf07uV/2dl8T6yHnzG4N5G9jUE8fk 473+LGnzsOKR4QDfZxc+lhAj+ekV0bUZBfO5npgCgrjnkw6Hu4omVjQF82VuEqPOylIH vIcg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.71.129 with SMTP id u123mr4876536oia.36.1439889332178; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 02:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.75.71 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 02:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.75.71 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 02:15:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55D24625.40806@olivere.de> References: <6EC9DDF352DC4838AE9B088AB372428A25E1F42A@DS04> <55D1C81D.4070402@olivere.de> <55D24625.40806@olivere.de> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 02:15:31 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Warren Togami Jr." To: Oliver Egginger Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113e501e291b2b051d925cb5 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:15:34 -0000 --001a113e501e291b2b051d925cb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I honestly don't understand your position, but I get the sense that you are suggesting Satoshi wouldn't be welcome to return if he wanted to be active in development again? Warren On Aug 17, 2015 1:38 PM, "Oliver Egginger" wrote: > Am 17.08.2015 um 21:03 schrieb Warren Togami Jr.: > > This bitcoin-dev list restarted with an empty subscriber list on June > > 21st, 2015. So whoever posted from satoshi@vistomail.com > > subscribed and verified the address > > recently. Do you propose that we manually approve new subscribers to > > prevent these kind of "abuses" as you put it? > > I would simply block the creators old email addresses. Easy with > Mailman. I thought that would be a good and easy approach, but maybe I'm > wrong. > > Some believes it is possible that the email could be genuine. Some say > that only the content is important. I have closely followed. An > interesting discussion. Thank you all so far. > > But let's say the poster would be the real Satoshi. Would we discuss his > posting if he would not claim to be Satoshi? There are a lot of smart > people on this list, which publish occasionally quite useful ideas. But > much of this is hardly the subject of greater discussion. Especially not > when it comes to the blocksize. On this subject almost everything has > been already said. But not yet by everyone. Especially not by Satoshi. > > Satoshi would have a decisive influence on the community. I'm sure. To > say it does not matter who's talking is maybe genteelly but a little bit > remote from everyday life. Or not? Satoshi is the creator. What he says > is in the newspaper and is perceived by all. If he says it's okay to do > nothing as long as we stand together, then people have the courage to do > maybe something dangerous or something wrong. Then people only follow > their hearts. Otherwise they follow their fear. It is a paradox of the > human nature that some type of Dictatorship can make you free. I say > some type, not any type. Enough said. > > - oliver > > --001a113e501e291b2b051d925cb5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I honestly don't understand your position, but I get the= sense that you are suggesting Satoshi wouldn't be welcome to return if= he wanted to be active in development again?

Warren

On Aug 17, 2015 1:38 PM, "Oliver Egginger&q= uot; <bitcoin@olivere.de> w= rote:
Am 17.08.2015 = um 21:03 schrieb Warren Togami Jr.:
> This bitcoin-dev list restarted with an empty subscriber list on June<= br> > 21st, 2015.=C2=A0 So whoever posted from satoshi@vistomail.com
> <mailto:satoshi@vistomail.= com> subscribed and verified the address
> recently.=C2=A0 Do you propose that we manually approve new subscriber= s to
> prevent these kind of "abuses" as you put it?

I would simply block the creators old email addresses. Easy with
Mailman. I thought that would be a good and easy approach, but maybe I'= m
wrong.

Some believes it is possible that the email could be genuine. Some say
that only the content is important. I have closely followed. An
interesting discussion. Thank you all so far.

But let's say the poster would be the real Satoshi. Would we discuss hi= s
posting if he would not claim to be Satoshi? There are a lot of smart
people on this list, which publish occasionally quite useful ideas. But
much of this is hardly the subject of greater discussion. Especially not when it comes to the blocksize. On this subject almost everything has
been already said. But not yet by everyone. Especially not by Satoshi.

Satoshi would have a decisive influence on the community. I'm sure. To<= br> say it does not matter who's talking is maybe genteelly but a little bi= t
remote from everyday life. Or not? Satoshi is the creator. What he says
is in the newspaper and is perceived by all. If he says it's okay to do=
nothing as long as we stand together, then people have the courage to do maybe something dangerous or something wrong. Then people only follow
their hearts. Otherwise they follow their fear. It is a paradox of the
human nature that some type of Dictatorship can make you free. I say
some type, not any type. Enough said.

- oliver

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