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[2607:f8b0:4864:20::1033]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ca18e2360f4ac-8648bd21aafsi18106239f.0.2025.04.30.08.38.08 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Apr 2025 08:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of bnagaev@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::1033 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1033; Received: by mail-pj1-x1033.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-30572effb26so53173a91.0 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2025 08:38:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnctiLalyBHIfw5ECJRhYWX/HzS2wHWmt7mKZ15grogPidwnz6U8VmOaft0MlIpX CVySSVqK6A6Jax5XeIoaBRkZKbyfzydc6Iy+J2g9tbq/w/7zcqfHeqIFxYF2IhSBoKYDtqIAFjT KmzvqSI7NqvWYqCY81zV1yhg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:3d44:b0:2fc:3264:3666 with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-30a33367916mr4980372a91.30.1746027487926; Wed, 30 Apr 2025 08:38:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <03be4934-f0ff-4b58-880d-861d63a4f970@dashjr.org> <4DAF69CE-2AA6-4429-9F3C-91030C88A88B@sprovoost.nl> In-Reply-To: <4DAF69CE-2AA6-4429-9F3C-91030C88A88B@sprovoost.nl> From: Nagaev Boris Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 12:37:29 -0300 X-Gm-Features: ATxdqUGe96p12H5Umze2uFLZ-0AjB4e9mJUMcPE2KgX0_EmxBp7ibXPYAu7QBnw Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Relax OP_RETURN standardness restrictions To: Sjors Provoost Cc: Bitcoin Development Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Sender: bnagaev@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=I5r6VHvw; spf=pass (google.com: domain of bnagaev@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::1033 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bnagaev@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com; dara=pass header.i=@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 12:13=E2=80=AFPM Sjors Provoost wrote: > > If that wasn't bad enough, exploiters get a 75% discount on transaction= fees. > > At the time SegWit was proposed it was clear that the worst case block si= ze would increase to 4 MB. It took a few years for people to figure out how= to take advantage of that. Somewhere between 2015 and early 2017 would hav= e been good time to object to the SegWit discount, but removing it now woul= d be a hard fork. Fwiw I think the discount was a good idea. Can you elaborate on why removing the SegWit discount now would be a hard fork, please? This would be a tightening of consensus rules - blocks that are valid under the current rules become invalid under new rules, but not vice versa. (I'm not proposing this, just a technical question.) --=20 Best regards, Boris Nagaev --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/= CAFC_Vt7TP3YKcnQzZaAkJMQ8zHTVoLwgByx9bU8pt7e2fMT9Cw%40mail.gmail.com.