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From: David Vorick <david.vorick@gmail.com>
To: Chris Priest <cp368202@ohiou.edu>,
	Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Classic 1.2.0 released
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2017 15:17:58 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFVRnyqw2w1rHN=ShLBsadB3henEM9BZxxdXj+4QY6NQAyZ4Fg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAcC9ysBJcSyMoTAuyFL+1D4m=-LZOgQF_pb4AFC5vpv-yMAHQ@mail.gmail.com>

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No, Bitcoin classic only activates if 75% of the _miners_ adopt it. That
says nothing about the broader network and indeed is much easier to achieve
through politicking, bribery, coercion, and other tomfoolery as 75% of the
hashrate is ultimately only a dozen people or so.

You have plenty of channels through which you can make your announcements,
this particular one is not okay.

On Jan 7, 2017 3:12 PM, "Chris Priest via bitcoin-dev" <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> Bitcoin Classic only activates if 75% of the network adopts it. That
> is not irresponsible or dangerous. It would only be dangerous if it
> activates at 50%, because that would create a situation where its not
> clear which side of the fork has the most proof of work.
>
> On 1/7/17, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > Your release announcement does not make it clear that Bitcoin Classic is
> > incompatible with the current Bitcoin network and its consensus rules. It
> > is a hard fork on mainnet with no safe activation as well as including
> > other unsafe changes. There is also no BIP for the hard fork. There is
> also
> > no evidence of community wide consensus for such a hard fork. This is
> > dangerous and irresponsible.
> >
> >
> > It's wrong to announce software without correctly informing people about
> > the contents or risks. Furthermore, there are no release notes in
> > https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic/tree/v1.2.0/doc nor
> > changelog. Without those, it is almost impossible for average users to
> know
> > what is under the hood or what has changed and time consuming for
> > developers to assess.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Tom Zander via bitcoin-dev <
> > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Bitcoin Classic version 1.2.0 is now available from;
> >>
> >>  <https://bitcoinclassic.com/gettingstarted.html>
> >>
> >> This is a new major version release, including new features, various
> >> bugfixes and performance improvements.
> >>
> >> This release marks a change in strategy for Bitcoin Classic, moving from
> >> the
> >> very conservative block size proposal based on compromise to one where
> >> Classic truly innovates and provides a long term solution for the market
> >> to
> >> choose and leave behind the restrictions of the old.
> >>
> >> The most visible change in this version is the decentralised block size
> >> solution where node operators decide on the maximum size.
> >>
> >> Bitcoin Classic is focused on providing users a way to get onto the
> >> Bitcoin
> >> network using a high quality validating node for a large set of use
> >> cases.
> >> Classic presents top notch quality processes in this release, to help
> >> anyone
> >> running Bitcoin.
> >>
> >> We include in this release various projects with the beta label. People
> >> who
> >> want to use the Classic node as an on-ramp to Bitcoin will find them
> >> interesting. These projects will need to be enabled in the config by
> >> those
> >> that want to test them.
> >>
> >> More background information on this release and Classic can be seen in
> >> this
> >> video: https://vimeo.com/192789752
> >> The full release notes are on github at
> >> https://github.com/bitcoinclassic/bitcoinclassic/releases/tag/v1.2.0
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tom Zander
> >> Blog: https://zander.github.io
> >> Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
> >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
> >>
> >
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-07 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-06 10:16 [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Classic 1.2.0 released Tom Zander
2017-01-07  8:13 ` Jonas Schnelli
2017-01-07  8:55 ` Eric Lombrozo
2017-01-07 15:15   ` Tom Zander
2017-01-07 20:12   ` Chris Priest
2017-01-07 20:17     ` David Vorick [this message]
2017-01-07 20:26       ` Chris Priest
2017-01-07 21:14         ` Eric Voskuil
2017-01-07 23:10         ` Aymeric Vitte
2017-01-07 23:49           ` Eric Voskuil
2017-01-08  0:28             ` Eric Lombrozo
2017-01-08  1:58               ` Chris Priest
2017-01-07 21:15     ` Btc Drak
2017-01-07 23:08       ` Tom Zander
2017-01-08  0:32   ` Eric Voskuil

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