From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <karra.etc@gmail.com> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D2405AD for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:40:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-pa0-f45.google.com (mail-pa0-f45.google.com [209.85.220.45]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C681923A for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pacan13 with SMTP id an13so143289396pac.1 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:40:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nZO0pr7vWaIFtZ3SICiHYm5WGXXOi8GOmEfGZfK2Ll0=; b=Mi8njxGrQkKLrr7WWBidSgdBDAV1JIjVf8SLa3YmtfVF8VMeWm7YPfvTQ7rVDPr8WG Gjs72guqb8fB0bit0c+R2ueooKNnKwWuhsd5Yx02ZkcoxlNhFx3zP50AxyKjrOWXyxO4 tnmjxr9Pd0ra5sNMBZmnwCzAxK/W3dodbkFlQIuWdMZr7pybVAktxgXoFzETX83dxxEK rwuMGb8t3uDmqLAIL5t++QkxUVKmZ7E+60LBxh4fK7RY9Jwi2wMQV8/ZV/E+ccpQwCa5 8wkQWxwz1nDL449KppwdkLP3NneR/sHdOOZymsK6uhWN6Pogni6VJhOQgJ6SBfXGiqPD wZww== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.217.138 with SMTP id oy10mr8284147pac.83.1437586858471; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.83.7 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 10:40:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <CAFkt3UONhyEuKHZOVwk6URQVSeseN6RXsYBNK8gUcXeraE62Jg@mail.gmail.com> References: <CADm_WcZKoMAhYvXbFMbE+5K9HOD75YkQu8_qTW4S6YN6ZMrfjA@mail.gmail.com> <55A9421B.6040605@jrn.me.uk> <55AC29DB.4060800@jrn.me.uk> <CABm2gDr6qXzvcpX_To39kCEsnQNTQS4M5Y40Yk_Lw481rjvSag@mail.gmail.com> <20150721130412.GA4551@savin.petertodd.org> <20150721135846.GB13429@savin.petertodd.org> <CAFkt3UONhyEuKHZOVwk6URQVSeseN6RXsYBNK8gUcXeraE62Jg@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 23:10:58 +0530 Message-ID: <CAFkt3UNm662DQu--6r6CrS+5p_d2+ug5x0TSPvHpa2YP1Euk_A@mail.gmail.com> From: Sriram Karra <karra.etc@gmail.com> To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f83aa7b08790c051b7a4619 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP 102 - kick the can down the road to 2MB X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:40:59 -0000 --e89a8f83aa7b08790c051b7a4619 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Sriram Karra <karra.etc@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev < > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > >> I personally *don't* think he's doing that, rather I believe he knows >> full well it's a bad patch and is proposing it because he wants to push >> discussion towards a solution. Often trolling the a audience with bad >> patches is an effective way to motivate people to respond by writing >> better ones; Jeff has told me he often does exactly that. >> >> I think in this case we shouldn't do anything, so short-circuiting that >> process by pointing out what he's doing publicly makes sense. >> > > Assuming that's what Jeff is doing, how does preventing better solutions > from emerging 'make sense'? > Peter, sorry, scratch that. --e89a8f83aa7b08790c051b7a4619 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">= On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Sriram Karra <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a hre= f=3D"mailto:karra.etc@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">karra.etc@gmail.com</a>&= gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 = 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><d= iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On Tue= , Jul 21, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr"><= ;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank"= >bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><div>=C2=A0= </div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l= eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I personally *don't* think he's doing that, rather I believe he kno= ws<br> full well it's a bad patch and is proposing it because he wants to push= <br> discussion towards a solution. Often trolling the a audience with bad<br> patches is an effective way to motivate people to respond by writing<br> better ones; Jeff has told me he often does exactly that.<br> <br> I think in this case we shouldn't do anything, so short-circuiting that= <br> process by pointing out what he's doing publicly makes sense.<br></bloc= kquote><div><br></div></span><div>Assuming that's what Jeff is doing, h= ow does preventing better solutions from emerging 'make sense'?<br>= </div></div></div></div> </blockquote></div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Peter, sorry,=C2=A0= scratch that.<br></div></div> --e89a8f83aa7b08790c051b7a4619--