From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org (smtp1.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::138]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6058FC000E for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 13:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4987E80F5F for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 13:10:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: smtp1.osuosl.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lJkfoVeAJsYi for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 13:10:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from mail-yb1-xb33.google.com (mail-yb1-xb33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b33]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 464E080F53 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 13:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yb1-xb33.google.com with SMTP id n15so5763036ybm.12 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 06:10:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DvJkH8ceIGavMIY7X/Ei/8XzCfzCzGGO1Ff6eb1NT40=; b=ZS/HoNxrKQDsSX8ieVMKIhQslNfAhTsc7BMiRTML5qRjIP5QHthCl8sjt6hrCcURQm fddqBlNh5xxb0XNf9WxVpV7lf1xWIRsMleV8h7K3V+X/iTdXp1k9rYYrgU+N4wYXvBso PuDYRor10llSZLAp2r89Rl4Ixf1rvWb+gQxJBiZWEolUJeQoM739aKRq9F+u/eRtzQEv 7uSltmGf3d3PcvpiOv+NUpUWHZq0IRU3pmnUnn1sGFvSDeFuRfeeqrIzt0Tlp7rUnKmR SQv7Fu5jB/5q2HMpUn04YBrLf60RhiytyaY+bgabJnraVzc5BUc6sOAtKwWMhUPtLGHi VcWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DvJkH8ceIGavMIY7X/Ei/8XzCfzCzGGO1Ff6eb1NT40=; b=Yo36DetLI2nAav4vKm+jfM3YMzcopVBS2YmobNNf4H2fToxTdq4Ii1ddIpLJuelzoO 2Neq91XfDHdC38l0jQDpSB7YH6BabcWRZaSaZqi0Hl+fmGZARIhCAII3Drv+Wp84MLAw SdP3mWF/4y0STfLloyYp16C+QZFLHeZHSeuQJN1Hq0MRQ6c1Pr19w2c00ScPSQebaouu G/sPUkrxo6H6S8LUa/NCndUA2QMvOIea6PIpO2lo0limewm2Ohy7hQVCZr/grlPl2400 s4kaOk4+JIDLZQRKa2BlUJNdEUqWSPLa6XOhrk6Ugl9mKMQHw9keLmVq5d1iPFwo4h/K CaPw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530LF63czrZdWtdSNHBu9vswnMLbmxqrj9r2N2OeVeXlaIOTGhf/ wcHOuqmzICU23HV2BQncP24dZJD5MFnk2RGicun/d/F3c1N/Xg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwZLdEEvXZnVOYjiLb+ZDqLoZnM2jlj/DzCnJYrJYTlnU2DMQejIaCADZ4ktoEtRyL02roR3QJmLlC13GicPWI= X-Received: by 2002:a25:20c1:: with SMTP id g184mr5064379ybg.180.1629983399923; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 06:09:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Michael Folkson Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 14:09:49 +0100 Message-ID: To: Jeremy , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 13:12:22 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Is there a tool like Ethereum EVM at present for Bitcoin script? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 13:10:05 -0000 The "No Taproot" section of the Sapio docs need updating :) What are your plans to take advantage of Taproot with Sapio? It would have been interesting to see what a Taproot emulator would have looked like, although no need for it now. It seems to me Taproot would have been harder to emulate than CTV though I could be wrong. https://learn.sapio-lang.org/ch05-02-taproot.html Also there have been a number of people asking questions about Sapio and CTV on the Libera equivalents of Freenode channels #sapio and ##ctv-bip-review over the past months. Do you plan to join and claim those channels? Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2021 03:26:23 -0700 From: Jeremy To: Andrew Poelstra , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Is there a tool like Ethereum EVM at present for Bitcoin script? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This has actually never been true (Sapio assumes extensions). If the extensions are not present, you can stub them out with a signing federation instead, configurable as flags, and you can also write many contracts that do not use the ctv based components at all. The protocol for emulation is a bit clever (if I do say so myself) since it ensures that contract compilation is completely offline and the oracles are completely stateless. Relevant links: https://learn.sapio-lang.org/ch05-01-ctv-emulator.html https://learn.sapio-lang.org/ch03-02-finish.html Cheers, Jeremy -- Michael Folkson Email: michaelfolkson@gmail.com Keybase: michaelfolkson PGP: 43ED C999 9F85 1D40 EAF4 9835 92D6 0159 214C FEE3