From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54D79BCA for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2017 13:25:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-wr0-f172.google.com (mail-wr0-f172.google.com [209.85.128.172]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 754BCE2 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2017 13:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wr0-f172.google.com with SMTP id q97so6169922wrb.2 for ; Wed, 07 Jun 2017 06:25:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ethereum.org; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=k/qyqF2O1v9+6IGbyHhnjuRogBVKiOEbmvFJFyhcciE=; b=VBFrufMa2fNlCsZQHc+P0x5VgO8K9kH0MaXGG6JuUsv+zf/cyezqvzYQYXzlssr8J4 kT5IAAIitS9ermLOQ7qpo+pg613UUdpOeeasLoV07zwaLG7YlF1eZnVE5yhoEEO5J3WP yQh1G0bhg7PTILExdvdgPRy78MLiC6M1vIgws= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=k/qyqF2O1v9+6IGbyHhnjuRogBVKiOEbmvFJFyhcciE=; b=LCD84i7t6PmVI7PtFz7/q2bu3xJwpSDUypFUCg+IrfRTTsgo9IlFN4y45Iq/spuyzi KVhotuBrNy/tRddtSsQjexewqEW8PU+5SKpj2i2J3KFR0dC2zMmw8MKCmvmcmnm45HVV s5xlmQr/ODYYgNEuq0i21Jh5jiwq+Ep4wVmeBPVRYycnsSnz3tcQkuD7tqLCzCeOlUTu oNSCvjz5IOxrzDvGEuLe0Wyd73RpfPnrvgg16w+T5S6gzgR90XKIUyLK9mvTTU0Zv+hd iPNt9BkiFM9GWQXs8m3QLIGjK9LBM2uEAF4XfHxuLf3JGK8jRnul0ymmfu8KtCkKBIYo gi4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcC5b2CGHWiPR8qiVhMPKhnEmZi7kgLqplAXt92je329LZybo+e5 Rb8afLb4KZrNyp2EsO6BrCJW2QHfRHeT X-Received: by 10.223.154.233 with SMTP id a96mr20983971wrc.139.1496841946098; Wed, 07 Jun 2017 06:25:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <31833011-7179-49D1-A07E-8FD9556C4534@taoeffect.com> In-Reply-To: From: Nick Johnson Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2017 13:25:35 +0000 Message-ID: To: Gregory Maxwell , Tao Effect Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045f4eb27b9d4d05515eacb4" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Jun 2017 13:31:34 +0000 Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Replay attacks make BIP148 and BIP149 untennable X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2017 13:25:48 -0000 --f403045f4eb27b9d4d05515eacb4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 12:02 AM Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:39 PM, Tao Effect via bitcoin-dev > wrote: > > I believe the severity of replay attacks is going unvoiced and is not > > understood within the bitcoin community because of their lack of > experience > > with them. > > Please don't insult our community-- the issues with replay were > pointed out by us to Ethereum in advance and were cited specifically > in prior hardfork discussions long before Ethereum started editing > their ledger for the economic benefit of its centralized > administrators. Please don't spread misinformation. Whatever you think of the DAO hard fork, it's a simple fact that the Ethereum ledger was not edited. -Nick Johnson --f403045f4eb27b9d4d05515eacb4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Jun 7,= 2017 at 12:02 AM Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 a= t 10:39 PM, Tao Effect via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> I believe the severity of replay attacks is going unvoiced and is not<= br> > understood within the bitcoin community because of their lack of exper= ience
> with them.

Please don't insult our community-- the issues with replay were
pointed out by us to Ethereum in advance and were cited specifically
in prior hardfork discussions long before Ethereum started editing
their ledger for the economic benefit of its centralized
administrators.
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Please don't sp= read misinformation. Whatever you think of the DAO hard fork, it's a si= mple fact that the Ethereum ledger was not edited.

-Nick Johnson
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