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From: William Yager <will.yager@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] [RFC] Proposal: Base58 encoded HD Wallet root key with optional encryption
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 14:55:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG8oi1M_jnn9vzHjN5h+0x-dYEKudgJ-DEqOKrdv-sCDaFV3NA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5320B7F1.8060701@gk2.sk>

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On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Pavol Rusnak <stick@gk2.sk> wrote:

> On 03/12/2014 08:26 PM, Jean-Paul Kogelman wrote:
> > So upon entering a password with a typo, the user will not be notified
> of an
> > error, but be presented with a wallet balance of 0, after the blockchain
> has
> > been scanned. I'm sorry, but that's not the kind of experience I would
> want to
> > present to my users.
>
> Sure, you can have either plausible deniability or typo checking, not
> both at the same time.
>
>
The proposed BIP uses a bloom filter, so it has both plausible deniability *and
*typo checking. The bloom filter is optimized for two elements and will
catch something like 99.9975% of typos, despite allowing two different
passwords.

> Would you care to elaborate how optional outsourcing of the KDF breaks
> > compatibility?
>
> I'm afraid one would end up with code generated in one client that is
> unusable in a different client, because the client's developer thought
> that using fancier algorithm instead of the proposed ones was a good idea.
>
>
This is clearly in violation of the spec. You could argue this about
anything in Bitcoin. What if a developer decided to replace SHA256 with
SHA3 in their implementation of a Bitcoin client? Obviously this would
cause issues.

Will

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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <op.w0hd2nthyldrnw@laptop-air>
2013-07-19 18:15 ` [Bitcoin-development] [RFC] Proposal: Base58 encoded HD Wallet master seed with optional encryption Jean-Paul Kogelman
2013-07-22 13:14   ` Mike Hearn
2013-07-22 14:33     ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2013-07-22 21:37     ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2013-11-16  2:47       ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-11-16  3:09         ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2013-12-26 11:48           ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2014-03-12  3:17             ` [Bitcoin-development] [RFC] Proposal: Base58 encoded HD Wallet root key " Jean-Paul Kogelman
2014-03-12 13:11               ` Pavol Rusnak
2014-03-12 15:45                 ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2014-03-12 15:55                   ` Pavol Rusnak
2014-03-12 16:49                     ` Gary Rowe
2014-03-12 18:00                       ` William Yager
2014-03-12 19:35                       ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2014-03-12 19:41                         ` Gary Rowe
2014-03-12 19:26                     ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2014-03-12 19:39                       ` Pavol Rusnak
2014-03-12 19:55                         ` William Yager [this message]
2014-03-12 20:04                           ` Pavol Rusnak
2014-03-12 20:10                             ` William Yager
2014-03-12 20:24                               ` Pavol Rusnak
2014-03-12 20:37                                 ` William Yager
2014-03-12 20:42                                   ` Pavol Rusnak
2014-03-12 20:49                                     ` William Yager
2014-03-12 21:08                                 ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2014-03-12 21:15                                   ` William Yager
2014-04-22  0:05 William Yager
2014-04-24 19:39 ` William Yager

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