From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BCFCAB2 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 20:24:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-wm0-f65.google.com (mail-wm0-f65.google.com [74.125.82.65]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A2E7433 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 20:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f65.google.com with SMTP id 196so17357409wma.1 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:24:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ek3HEqLNhYepj91s7W6zCU6jjzi0vifhM4aQcbM2k2k=; b=X5F2iqXOf/BQnyZ9zD2p9aUFqOpgU2OcqZhn2rvYOa4Fj6IXQP1h2n4nS99v6B/WAk aApcKaR70mXOsMH59O/KCgrMQTGp43ZNiCfdhGTdYafDcOwlFQAdw8V1Gx7W9466DtrL Rodz77BxEso5EERY9Dr7TCSEyeyjrHSPFPRMK2JXIMgdeZbdoNu4b7PkonsJ92vL2S0k 7bCeg+Xn9HVLyMqWQWgixEGvhYv9rAfARS/9MT7gdPp+VmCiXc+onJmJiAAkogKcFi2t ZVvz//XreOXZScHtaZjy14jd9qPxGU7/a68P8LQSXiwBXN7mnXuDndzzfSlb5kc8cxHE UYWQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ek3HEqLNhYepj91s7W6zCU6jjzi0vifhM4aQcbM2k2k=; b=KPu+O7vs4QDepFO6wSiPTmtknKYiaYO6B3UO8yPENnwu75NsdvhZoTPbliIOvSSWmx W7DmQs187dHIMwyVt7Ox7R5QWGcXXYLvToDySdRqDND/Zgl3A1LFWqZlHXGWtrBSZtW2 +FAajoL6w/j/QTWqT2gevwp6WvAli/cz8xhlp/0fSONVpDe9ixZo4hBt6BE8mGc2ovu8 hxVRXFVN5/0R/NhshzqDBNbVyC8Cg6SrIspVwS7OJRz5lt0ujQ53ZN9mFsu9fmOzLExU p75dc+Qgi4267IAb1HnWghgfA69jAyRLMhKTIsTdKlwyrHMUnfeKSua2Hk0MHEO3cnrN Jj1A== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaXYEtred5W5pys6VOfP+6nDrbISa/Kz3hvefKVRnlpZFC5eTDPP 5DBAhwYTvEh3dDUz8JYOq+EAxaVnbihuADYsIjU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDquIibXhikIBN7qxFoIkn0TpI8QM4hCPrjBTu3cusW0v8M8qhyN5jvEHJuoHWGzYQBCcA2ZX8TroBKIVncQ+A= X-Received: by 10.28.170.9 with SMTP id t9mr11686422wme.148.1507667044045; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:24:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.86.194 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:23:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <16D7672F-AA36-47D7-AAEF-E767B9CE09FF@taoeffect.com> <55CAABF4-4FB8-4230-8E51-014C1D347D72@taoeffect.com> From: Lucas Clemente Vella Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 17:23:43 -0300 Message-ID: To: Tao Effect , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11442b8299ad0f055b37162c" X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 20:46:49 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Generalized sharding protocol for decentralized scaling without Miners owning our BTC X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 20:24:06 -0000 --001a11442b8299ad0f055b37162c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2017-10-10 11:09 GMT-03:00 Tao Effect via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>: > When you transfer them back, you get newly minted coins, equivalent to th= e > amount you "burned" on the chain you're transferring from =E2=80=94 as st= ated in > the OP. > If you have to change Bitcoin to recognize a transfer from the sidechain back into Bitcoin, you kill the purpose of the sidechain. You could as well just change the Bitcoin to implement whatever desirable features the sidechain would have. The whole idea of sidechains is to keep Bicoin unchangend, and allow for the voluntary transfer of tokens out of Bitcoin to the sidechain of your choosing. --=20 Lucas Clemente Vella lvella@gmail.com --001a11442b8299ad0f055b37162c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2017= -10-10 11:09 GMT-03:00 Tao Effect via bitcoin-dev <bit= coin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>:
When you transfer them b= ack, you get newly minted coins, equivalent to the amount you "burned&= quot; on the chain you're transferring from =E2=80=94 as stated in the = OP.

If you have to change Bitco= in to recognize a transfer from the sidechain back into Bitcoin, you kill t= he purpose of the sidechain. You could as well just change the Bitcoin to i= mplement whatever desirable features the sidechain would have. The whole id= ea of sidechains is to keep Bicoin unchangend, and allow for the voluntary = transfer of tokens out of Bitcoin to the sidechain of your choosing.


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