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From: "Jorge Timón" <timon.elviejo@gmail.com>
To: Walter Stanish <walter@stani.sh>
Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:08:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGQP0AEep1RtaPm6chQh-fLB63tx7Eb9tGq_Obpp003PREt6zw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACwuEiMu1iMnrv2zubqUugSwxu_jWmNxJtPuhdNoqJPgRHhKhg@mail.gmail.com>

2011/12/15, Walter Stanish <walter@stani.sh>:
> Interaction is a requirement, since there seems to be a widely felt
> need to preserve anonymity through the use of temporary addresses.
> Generating a temporary address requires some actual processing to
> achieve, since the issuing of the new address cannot be done without
> interacting with the entity hosting the wallet (unless I'm missing
> something?).

I thought the interaction was just the server answering with an
address (maybe also amount and other details). But we don't have to
define how the server will get that address.
Some possibilities:

-A static address: less anonymity, but some people may not care. Say a
donation address.
-The servers stores the recipient private keys and generates a new one
for each payment.
-The server stores a set of addresses provided by the recipient and it
manages what address it gives in each request (like in the web service
I told you I can't find).

> It *is* true that under the current IIBAN proposal there would be one
> entity (IANA) in charge of issuing namespace portions ('institution
> codes' - probably best to rename these...), however:
>  ...

IANA reserves some namespace for bitcoin. All right.
The problem comes later.
"
* Systems such as [BITCOIN] have quirks that require slightly
      delayed settlement due to the nature of their decentralized,
      consensus-based approach to fiscal transfer.  Users requiring
      instant settlement MAY thus see benefit in the use of a
      centralized proxy system or organization as an instantaneous
      financial settlement provider (the 'institution').
"
As I understand it (probably I'm wrong, because I haven't read the
whole IIBAN draft) there would be a "bitcoin institution" that would
map bitcoin addresses to the bitcoin subspace of the IIBAN.

"    * IANA MAY delegate management of portions of the IIBAN name space
      through such institutions."

If we can find a deterministic method to map the subspace the all
possible bitcoin addresses, everything's fine again. But if that's not
possible, we would need a central institution to manage the mapping
and that would be a step back in decentralization.
I can't find the answer of Gavin's question "How is the mapping done?"
in your post. I'll re-read it though.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-15 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-12 23:16 [Bitcoin-development] [BIP 15] Aliases Zell Faze
2011-12-12 23:37 ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-12 23:41   ` Luke-Jr
     [not found]     ` <CAGQP0AGBKKEqhaJZj-Rw400AjrVHE9_EMve=RWdqoaOaDsTgtw@mail.gmail.com>
2011-12-13  0:00       ` [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: " Jorge Timón
2011-12-13  0:42         ` Amir Taaki
2011-12-13  2:32           ` Daniel F
2011-12-13  2:37             ` Amir Taaki
2011-12-13  2:43               ` Luke-Jr
2011-12-13  2:52               ` Daniel F
2011-12-13 10:55           ` Mike Hearn
2011-12-13 11:42             ` Christian Decker
2011-12-13 12:32               ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-13 13:06                 ` Gavin Andresen
2011-12-13 15:46                   ` Amir Taaki
2011-12-13 16:22                     ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-14 19:22                       ` D.H.
2011-12-14 20:07                         ` Luke-Jr
2011-12-14 20:17                           ` D.H.
2011-12-14 20:21                           ` Joel Joonatan Kaartinen
2011-12-14 22:51                             ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-14 23:02                               ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-14 23:27                                 ` Luke-Jr
2011-12-15  1:22                                   ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-15  3:57                                     ` Zell Faze
2011-12-15  4:56                                       ` Kyle Henderson
2011-12-15  6:04                                         ` Zell Faze
2011-12-15  6:41                                           ` Walter Stanish
2011-12-15  7:45                                             ` Jordan Mack
2011-12-15  7:52                                               ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-15  7:48                                             ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-15  8:26                                               ` Walter Stanish
2011-12-15 10:01                                                 ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-15 11:08                                                 ` Jorge Timón [this message]
2011-12-15 11:22                                                   ` Christian Decker
2011-12-16  5:42                                                   ` Walter Stanish
2011-12-16  8:46                                                 ` Pieter Wuille
2011-12-15 15:44                                               ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-15 15:42                                           ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-16  0:07                       ` slush
2011-12-16 15:52                         ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-16 16:36                           ` slush
2011-12-16 17:10                           ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-16 17:41                             ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-16 18:29                               ` Amir Taaki
2011-12-16 19:06                                 ` Gavin Andresen
2011-12-16 19:22                                   ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-16 20:58                                   ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-16 20:54                               ` Andy Parkins
2011-12-16 21:50                                 ` Rick Wesson
2011-12-13 15:47                   ` Luke-Jr
2011-12-16 17:36                   ` Khalahan
2011-12-16 17:48                     ` Gregory Maxwell
2011-12-13 15:55               ` Walter Stanish
2011-12-13 16:15                 ` Jorge Timón
2011-12-13 16:48                 ` Gavin Andresen
2011-12-14  2:30                   ` Walter Stanish
2011-12-13  2:39     ` [Bitcoin-development] " Stefan Thomas
2011-12-12 23:52   ` Matt Corallo
2011-12-12 23:37 ` Will
     [not found] <9109000381434268897@unknownmsgid>
2011-12-13  8:55 ` [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: " Cameron Garnham

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