From: James MacWhyte <macwhyte@gmail.com>
To: thealanevans@gmail.com,
Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP39 seeds
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 18:06:08 +0000 [thread overview]
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On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:40 AM Alan Evans via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> I think any method that doesn't use real entropy, but some fake source of
> randomness, such as a book is asking to be hacked and so is not a
> reasonable idea.
>
> If an algorithm for book text to BIP39 sentence ever became well used,
> common books will be systematically searched for accounts. People will also
> choose their favourite passages, so I would expect to see collisions.
>
>
I tend to have this conversation a lot ;) I'm not sure what Aymeric has in
mind, but my suggestions are for use by the small few who properly
understand how these things work. I am not suggesting blockchain.info
require every user to choose a book passage to use as their backup phrase!
There are so many small things that could be done to make a text input
unique. Choose the X number of words from the start of the Nth sentence.
Replace all punctuation with exclamation points. Combine two sentences from
different pages. It would be nigh impossible to brute force any of these,
and would require hints/instructions from the owner to recover.
But I admit if this is not intended for standardization, discussing it on
this mailing list is probably unwarranted.
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Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-21 23:58 [bitcoin-dev] BIP39 seeds Aymeric Vitte
2018-12-23 18:46 ` Pavol Rusnak
2018-12-23 22:41 ` Aymeric Vitte
2018-12-25 0:30 ` James MacWhyte
2018-12-26 11:33 ` Aymeric Vitte
2018-12-26 18:54 ` James MacWhyte
2018-12-27 11:04 ` Aymeric Vitte
2018-12-31 16:52 ` Alan Evans
2019-01-01 19:44 ` Aymeric Vitte
2019-01-02 18:06 ` James MacWhyte [this message]
2019-01-04 0:02 ` Aymeric Vitte
2018-12-24 14:58 ` Tiago Romagnani Silveira
2018-12-23 20:55 ` Eric Scrivner
2018-12-23 21:08 ` Jameson Lopp
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