From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76DC988B for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 00:41:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-io0-f182.google.com (mail-io0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1E6B13E for ; Wed, 5 Aug 2015 00:41:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ioea135 with SMTP id a135so34250960ioe.1 for ; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:41:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=4q6vbtsVdDEWD4Blk+tYumgruz8lgPKtFgT41o6Y9uY=; b=MOWsG76EGvKu3wrNKbeaEk+LE02F5Q4trt7YkP5ixU5vjYG0xUBTrf4ZQ+dKI6vmNJ 7MZmaljp4Ur0cvbRwr5W42iDxRcbyOkLzGOx7PdRgXg6s+7ubO4qi8fDCM8NWA/M6IZ0 iafdqicT1HGijbW2cMqbPxCjaryqRQE/Hd0so98xIDeYD364yUmC0XCM/arqAjj/U3VV I47Nv6VCOVSzHKNNwXwJumJeM+W9uuOP13b4wpbL5He8PvZOmcfr9fOfcqy1ZV/rl3Md wMXsPaEhtM1hsXzPGP4rCRI6B/1kYxdStZPXJXNUP1n3afqMy8YWVMyH2RUBQklHuBUA 1Sgw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk3fG4L0DE5hoL0ZTcjdvPqHCly7xexNy+Wc11e3zVb1GWcXyWIA4ZGwUNVtBO/2Jmk1QsL X-Received: by 10.107.11.155 with SMTP id 27mr7083397iol.121.1438735281930; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 17:41:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: neil@asdf.co.nz Received: by 10.107.53.226 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:40:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [202.56.47.34] In-Reply-To: <55C1581C.7080804@bitcoins.info> References: <1438640036.2828.0.camel@auspira.com> <3162BC78-EC0B-4DAA-A472-D143389DDD8A@hashingit.com> <3E3C6C76-DF1F-4F06-A01F-4E126B70C8F2@petertodd.org> <55C1581C.7080804@bitcoins.info> From: Neil Fincham Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 12:40:42 +1200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cfmksx-Sjg4PH40XfrEuERKXpVI Message-ID: To: Milly Bitcoin Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113f8cfc67df53051c85a976 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,T_REMOTE_IMAGE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] "A Transaction Fee Market Exists Without a Block Size Limit"--new research paper suggests X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 00:41:24 -0000 --001a113f8cfc67df53051c85a976 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > Researchers should also keep in mind that some of developers are immature and have limited knowledge or experience beyond their Bitcoin expertise ("Idiot-savants"). Others want to be in "charge" of drama-laced posts on reddit and they get upset if others do the same things. > In any case these rants and attacks by Todd and Garzik should be posted on their personal blogs or reddit instead of this list. I very rarely comment on list politics but isn't this the kettle calling the pot black? Back to my hole now I promise. On 5 August 2015 at 12:26, Milly Bitcoin via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > For those wishing to do actual research, esp. people such as profs >> mentoring students, ... >> > > But keep in mind that you're wading into a highly politically charged >> research field >> with billions hanging on the blocksize limit; understand that people >> aren't happy when >> flawed papers end up on reddit being used to promote bad ideas. You'd be >> wise to run future >> work past experts in the field prior to publishing widely if you dislike >> heated controversy. >> > > Or, I could just point out the obvious rather than try to be polite: you >> know exactly why >> the above makes no sense as a reply to this thread and are deliberately >> lying. >> > > If the situation is the latter, your conduct is toxic to the development >> mailing list >> discussion, not to mention a waste of all our time, and you should leave. >> > > > > > Researchers should also keep in mind that some of developers are immature > and have limited knowledge or experience beyond their Bitcoin expertise > ("Idiot-savants"). Others want to be in "charge" of drama-laced posts on > reddit and they get upset if others do the same things. > > In any case these rants and attacks by Todd and Garzik should be posted on > their personal blogs or reddit instead of this list. > > Russ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > -- [image: Facebook] [image: Twitter] [image: LinkedIn] Neil Fincham MineForeman Phone: +64 21 545 583 99 Sala St, Rotorua, New Zealand. 3010 Website | neil@mineforeman.com --001a113f8cfc67df53051c85a976 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>=C2=A0Researchers should also keep in mind that some of developers are immature= and have limited knowledge or experience beyond their Bitcoin expertise (&= quot;Idiot-savants").=C2=A0 Others want to be in "charge" of= drama-laced posts on reddit and they get upset if others do the same thing= s.

>=C2=A0In any case these rants and attacks by Todd and Garzik should be = posted on their personal blogs or reddit instead of this list.
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I very=C2=A0rarely=C2=A0comment on list= politics but=C2=A0isn't=C2=A0this the kettle calling the pot black?

Back to my hole now I= =C2=A0promise.

On 5 August 2015 at 12:26, Milly Bitcoin via bitcoin-dev <= span dir=3D"ltr"><bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> w= rote:
For those wishing to do actual research, esp. people such as profs mentorin= g students, ...

But keep in mind that you're wading into a highly politically charged r= esearch field
with billions hanging on the blocksize limit; understand that people aren&#= 39;t happy when
flawed papers end up on reddit being used to promote bad ideas. You'd b= e wise to run future
work past experts in the field prior to publishing widely if you dislike he= ated controversy.

Or, I could just point out the obvious rather than try to be polite: you kn= ow exactly why
the above makes no sense as a reply to this thread and are deliberately lyi= ng.

If the situation is the latter, your conduct is toxic to the development ma= iling list
discussion, not to mention a waste of all our time, and you should leave.




Researchers should also keep in mind that some of developers are immature a= nd have limited knowledge or experience beyond their Bitcoin expertise (&qu= ot;Idiot-savants").=C2=A0 Others want to be in "charge" of d= rama-laced posts on reddit and they get upset if others do the same things.=

In any case these rants and attacks by Todd and Garzik should be posted on = their personal blogs or reddit instead of this list.

Russ








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