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> Researchers should also keep in mind that some of developers are immature
and have limited knowledge or experience beyond their Bitcoin expertise
("Idiot-savants"). Others want to be in "charge" of drama-laced posts on
reddit and they get upset if others do the same things.
> In any case these rants and attacks by Todd and Garzik should be posted
on their personal blogs or reddit instead of this list.
I very rarely comment on list politics but isn't this the kettle calling
the pot black?
Back to my hole now I promise.
On 5 August 2015 at 12:26, Milly Bitcoin via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> For those wishing to do actual research, esp. people such as profs
>> mentoring students, ...
>>
>
> But keep in mind that you're wading into a highly politically charged
>> research field
>> with billions hanging on the blocksize limit; understand that people
>> aren't happy when
>> flawed papers end up on reddit being used to promote bad ideas. You'd be
>> wise to run future
>> work past experts in the field prior to publishing widely if you dislike
>> heated controversy.
>>
>
> Or, I could just point out the obvious rather than try to be polite: you
>> know exactly why
>> the above makes no sense as a reply to this thread and are deliberately
>> lying.
>>
>
> If the situation is the latter, your conduct is toxic to the development
>> mailing list
>> discussion, not to mention a waste of all our time, and you should leave.
>>
>
>
>
>
> Researchers should also keep in mind that some of developers are immature
> and have limited knowledge or experience beyond their Bitcoin expertise
> ("Idiot-savants"). Others want to be in "charge" of drama-laced posts on
> reddit and they get upset if others do the same things.
>
> In any case these rants and attacks by Todd and Garzik should be posted on
> their personal blogs or reddit instead of this list.
>
> Russ
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>>=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px=
">Researchers should also keep in mind that some of developers are immature=
and have limited knowledge or experience beyond their Bitcoin expertise (&=
quot;Idiot-savants").=C2=A0 Others want to be in "charge" of=
drama-laced posts on reddit and they get upset if others do the same thing=
s.</span></div><div><br></div>>=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-size:12.8000001=
907349px">In any case these rants and attacks by Todd and Garzik should be =
posted on their personal blogs or reddit instead of this list.</span><div><=
span style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></div><div><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">I very=C2=A0rarely=C2=A0comment on list=
politics but=C2=A0isn't=C2=A0this the kettle calling the pot black?</s=
pan></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></span></di=
v><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8000001907349px">Back to my hole now I=
=C2=A0promise.</span></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On 5 August 2015 at 12:26, Milly Bitcoin via bitcoin-dev <=
span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.or=
g" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>></span> w=
rote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
For those wishing to do actual research, esp. people such as profs mentorin=
g students, ...<br>
</blockquote><span class=3D"">
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
But keep in mind that you're wading into a highly politically charged r=
esearch field<br>
with billions hanging on the blocksize limit; understand that people aren&#=
39;t happy when<br>
flawed papers end up on reddit being used to promote bad ideas. You'd b=
e wise to run future<br>
work past experts in the field prior to publishing widely if you dislike he=
ated controversy.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</span><span class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Or, I could just point out the obvious rather than try to be polite: you kn=
ow exactly why<br>
the above makes no sense as a reply to this thread and are deliberately lyi=
ng.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
If the situation is the latter, your conduct is toxic to the development ma=
iling list<br>
discussion, not to mention a waste of all our time, and you should leave.<b=
r>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br></span>
Researchers should also keep in mind that some of developers are immature a=
nd have limited knowledge or experience beyond their Bitcoin expertise (&qu=
ot;Idiot-savants").=C2=A0 Others want to be in "charge" of d=
rama-laced posts on reddit and they get upset if others do the same things.=
<br>
<br>
In any case these rants and attacks by Todd and Garzik should be posted on =
their personal blogs or reddit instead of this list.<br>
<br>
Russ<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
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