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From: Lloyd Fournier <lloyd.fourn@gmail.com>
To: Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail.com>,
	 Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP 340 updates: even pubkeys, more secure nonce generation
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2020 16:51:59 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH5Bsr2A7BepO9qYdL=Vzeajm1ZpoyH7-6AjLjcNDA8k5Qq0fA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPg+sBgxvRM5ncQAnbNLN=4bdkQrM+-DxibMoTG+6gqk7EY9hQ@mail.gmail.com>

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* To protect against differential power analysis, a different way of
> mixing in this randomness is used (masking the private key completely
> with randomness before continuing, rather than hashing them together,
> which is known in the literature to be vulnerable to DPA in some
> scenarios).
>

I think citation for this would improve the spec.

I haven't studied these attacks but it seems to me that every hardware
wallet would be vulnerable to them while doing key derivation. If the
attacker can get side channel information from hashes in nonce derivation
then they can surely get side channel information from hashes in HD key
derivation. It should actually be easier since the master seed is hashed
for anything the hardware device needs to do including signing.

is this the case?

LL

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-22  5:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-24  4:26 [bitcoin-dev] BIP 340 updates: even pubkeys, more secure nonce generation Pieter Wuille
     [not found] ` <CAMZUoKkAebw6VzSco3F+wnLptNwsCiEw23t2pLj0xitiOSszMQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-02-26  3:26   ` [bitcoin-dev] Fwd: " Russell O'Connor
2020-02-26  4:20 ` [bitcoin-dev] " Lloyd Fournier
2020-02-26 15:34   ` Jonas Nick
2020-02-27  4:55     ` Lloyd Fournier
2020-03-22  5:51 ` Lloyd Fournier [this message]

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