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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com>
To: Alan Reiner <etotheipi@gmail.com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP70: why Google Protocol Buffers for encoding?
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:21:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJHLa0NA357Fa2CjBPopKvDs1T0FFOsPjnizsVWPNWX46LfgyA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54BD6314.60607@gmail.com>

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Correct.  I should have said "more likely to be deterministic"  Bitcoin
Core does not *rely* on determinism in BIP70; I was referring to recent
upstream efforts to make protobufs usable in a deterministic fashion by
default.

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Alan Reiner <etotheipi@gmail.com> wrote:

>  I'm a bit confused.  It's been a long time since I looked at protobuf
> (and will have to dig into it soon), but I seem to recall it doesn't have
> any of the determinism properties you guys just said.  It is intended to
> allow you to skip details of the on-the-wire representations and just send
> a bunch of named fields between systems.  I thought there was no guarantee
> that two identical protobuf structures will get serialized identically...?
>
>
>
>
>
> On 01/19/2015 02:57 PM, Richard Brady wrote:
>
>   Thanks guys, great answers.
>
>  The design choice certainly makes a lot more sense now regardless of
> whether one agrees with it or not.
>
>  Regards,
> Richard
>
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-01-19 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-19 19:07 [Bitcoin-development] BIP70: why Google Protocol Buffers for encoding? Richard Brady
2015-01-19 19:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2015-01-19 19:16   ` Richard Brady
2015-01-19 19:34     ` Jeff Garzik
2015-01-19 19:48   ` Peter Todd
2015-01-19 19:57     ` Richard Brady
2015-01-19 20:03       ` Alan Reiner
2015-01-19 20:06         ` Peter Todd
2015-01-19 20:40         ` Mike Hearn
2015-01-19 20:56           ` Gavin Andresen
2015-01-19 21:22             ` Brian Hoffman
2015-01-19 20:59           ` Ross Nicoll
2015-01-24 13:19           ` Isidor Zeuner
2015-01-25 22:59             ` Ross Nicoll
2015-03-14 15:58             ` Isidor Zeuner
2015-03-24 12:08               ` Jorge Timón
2015-01-19 21:21         ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2015-01-19 19:19 ` Matt Whitlock
2015-01-19 19:37   ` Mike Hearn
2015-01-19 19:38   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-01-28 12:45 Nicolas DORIER
2015-01-28 13:32 ` Wladimir
2015-01-28 14:00   ` Nicolas DORIER
2015-01-28 15:42     ` Mike Hearn
2015-01-28 16:04       ` Jeff Garzik
2015-01-28 16:52         ` Nicolas DORIER
2015-01-28 17:29           ` Jeff Garzik
2015-01-28 17:45             ` Mike Hearn
2015-01-28 16:19       ` Giuseppe Mazzotta
2015-01-28 16:51         ` Matt Whitlock
2015-01-28 17:02           ` Mike Hearn
2015-01-28 16:34       ` Nicolas DORIER
2015-01-28 16:55         ` Mike Hearn
2015-01-28 17:04           ` Nicolas Dorier
2015-01-28 17:14             ` Mike Hearn
2015-01-28 17:17               ` Angel Leon
2015-01-28 17:27               ` Nicolas DORIER

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