From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1X73K6-0002oA-EQ for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:03:14 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of bitpay.com designates 209.85.212.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.174; envelope-from=jgarzik@bitpay.com; helo=mail-wi0-f174.google.com; Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com ([209.85.212.174]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1X73Jy-00047X-Pn for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:03:14 +0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id d1so4405406wiv.13 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:03:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=BzPdMFYhu1spealoa5xJXyemcKNDvThvKS9+jrm12HA=; b=EPClOGVTZPu7Zz2DpCd807TE+Enm2ctvMoZns3KrG/a5yy9Wl/KW4bWcqeWGEJUvFl vjrvdj20QGzDv35W7WVBedpdNZIfysLDJNOsHW5gNXn9GTXccNuUubN5G7ev2taUJ8OD kD4sP3Jpc2BEilv/2oE3zbNAn4hZP6w+pVaTLwawfAWsFfaX1Spt/iKSohzCpH7BCODP pc5gHl78HeDjwlvFIJiaFaWHkVOYYXjOt1b4H0C+7L7Zqv9c13F0HkEqXo6JZztUFpx8 i8VKr1TWAkRJZ2wO5ftPmrk7Ucqat05XQohUBTjxAxeapzDRSlbpHtK8ooRomnGLCnht Ngcg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmrJxT+KPFfDbAJUwyv+2uRtTyV5hE42yAbYXm473rf9HVwE3Mn0nzyr6aZLlbrL8+JZBQV X-Received: by 10.181.13.44 with SMTP id ev12mr5913586wid.57.1405432980507; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:03:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.5.67 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 07:02:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jeff Garzik Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 10:02:40 -0400 Message-ID: To: Mike Hearn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1X73Jy-00047X-Pn Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Bitcoin address TTL & key expiration? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:03:14 -0000 BIP70 does not work well for unknown number of future payments of unknown, unpredictable value. On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Mike Hearn wrote: >> The request: It would be useful to limit the lifetime of a bitcoin >> address. > > > Not only useful but essential! Otherwise mobile clients can run out of RAM > and have to cycle around and reuse addresses. > > Which is indeed why BIP70 has this feature. It was thought about quite some > time ago. Addresses are an evolutionary dead end, they will never do > everything we need them to do. If there's somewhere that's using addresses, > that's somewhere we will eventually need to upgrade to use BIP70 instead. > > -- Jeff Garzik Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/