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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com>
To: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Scaling Bitcoin with Subchains
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:01:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJHLa0PNbYST4R-5LJcVxmN=85bf0f3DLw5qgGmGQwvsExzseg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANEZrP1D0AN_iRobD2RYXHCCWhU7Vk6yZ35+ytsQ0zonSCG_HQ@mail.gmail.com>

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Side chains are a way to scale and shard horizontally while still retaining
primary security parameters of the main chain.

The future is an Internet of chains, a forest of chains with bitcoin as the
root chain for: factom / proofofexistence, ChainDB, Blockstream side
chains, merge mined side chains, and more.  A multi-chain design is much
more scalable in general.




On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> wrote:

> It's simple: either you care about validation, and you must validate
>> everything, or you don't, and you don't validate anything.
>>
> Pedantically: you could validate a random subset of all scripts, to give
> yourself probabilistic verification rather than full vs SPV. If enough
> people do it with a large enough subset the probability of a problem being
> detected goes up a lot. You still pay the cost of the database updates.
>
> But your main point is of course completely right, that side chains are
> not a way to scale up.
>
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-- 
Jeff Garzik
Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist
BitPay, Inc.      https://bitpay.com/

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-15 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-20  2:55 [Bitcoin-development] Scaling Bitcoin with Subchains Andrew
2015-05-25 18:15 ` Mike Hearn
2015-05-28  2:16   ` Andrew
2015-05-28  2:34     ` Bryan Bishop
2015-06-13 14:39 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-13 17:55   ` Andrew
2015-06-14  6:55   ` Martin Schwarz
2015-06-15 17:05     ` Andrew
2015-06-15 17:09       ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-15 17:15         ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-16 18:17           ` Peter Todd
2015-06-16 18:43             ` Andrew
2015-06-16 19:04               ` Andrew
2015-06-15 17:18         ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-15 18:00           ` Andrew
2015-06-16 15:23             ` Andrew
2015-06-15 18:01           ` Jeff Garzik [this message]

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