From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WSVHz-00008y-Tg for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:37:27 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of bitpay.com designates 209.85.213.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.46; envelope-from=jgarzik@bitpay.com; helo=mail-yh0-f46.google.com; Received: from mail-yh0-f46.google.com ([209.85.213.46]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WSVHx-0005Be-NN for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:37:27 +0000 Received: by mail-yh0-f46.google.com with SMTP id b6so846450yha.19 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:37:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=QT6B6fqagbql3/H8oqxPgPj7oVwIncb3eBaHsGjKnHE=; b=fPf6y9cKZ5V+htZwxMNLDa/7HGd7ORieBqK0h6kieA5DXmmKR6PF8Hwf0otq88gvjN x5wjgf5CdPm3pEP0afTHC9ndUdhUZcWQnwdtSF5gTgxeHGZD6yhAiMloXuV6mwkCeUFU D1ndLxtd5c29Z0pwnaQNhxqonJitHIPDhzSL7uV9VAhEkUC4yBcIevfNK0kz2ug/MRCE 3es+PTPSJg3Rsld4BaIbwK+IeUjX4/rVImieUzTEPTtAeiZK2zicTs0dBhl5VHldr433 Wqz4RAXxLb8AWwKnZaxbKvZo7A1s88JVbzvoXG+IWdIvAMa4QiTOcv7n/bAAZQNOAExY 9rNw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm/Ot9h7eqdMNxWJVVIQwyVWZSw6CQmh8lv7Lhakeau+nXWAiLM9lHP4oiFpcNwFC0yhZUs X-Received: by 10.236.125.12 with SMTP id y12mr76062495yhh.42.1395769040196; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:37:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.170.162.214 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:37:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140325134918.GB7929@savin> References: <20140322084702.GA13436@savin> <20140322150836.GG3180@nl.grid.coop> <20140322190825.GB6047@savin> <532DE7E6.4050304@monetize.io> <20140325122851.GA9818@savin> <20140325134918.GB7929@savin> From: Jeff Garzik Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:37:00 -0400 Message-ID: To: Peter Todd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WSVHx-0005Be-NN Cc: Bitcoin Dev , Gavin Andresen Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Tree-chains preliminary summary X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:37:28 -0000 On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Peter Todd wrote: > For someone with 'Chief Scientist' as their job title, I'm surprised you > think so little of hard evidence and so much of idol worshipping. Peter, take this unprofessional, personal crap off-list. Mike's anecdote of hostility is not an isolated one. Just today, a bitcore developer commented on "Peter Todd's ..apocalyptic vision and... negative view on bitcoin" which turned off some other developers from participating more interactively. As I commented on IRC, open source projects are no strangers to people who simultaneously (a) make useful contributions and (b) turn potential contributors away with an abrasive or hostile attitude toward others. It's an unsolved problem in OSS, that I saw for 15+ years in the Linux kernel community. For this list, as Mike suggested on IRC, introducing an openly stated moderation policy may be the one route. -- Jeff Garzik Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/