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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com>
To: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Decentralizing ming
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:44:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJHLa0PZsTjB7O_JuPsMUzfrWAB9yW+x0bEKWo3JyGebKr42ZA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANEZrP2+tufB0jbgqdCc9t_XLbs9pnX9t8jUGfLA_xLDhEts8Q@mail.gmail.com>

Yes.  That, and several other things.  If you can figure out how to
propagate a block without re-propagating all the transactions everyone
already has, you address the large-blocks-slower-to-relay problem, and
additionally create an incentive for miners to mine blocks consisting
of publicly broadcast transactions (versus a bunch of secret ones
mined with secret agreements).

Democratizing transaction selection takes a bit of power away from the
miners and gives it back to the network at large.  GBT is another
piece of that puzzle.


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> wrote:
> Oops, sorry, I see the subject line changed. This is what I get for working
> down the thread list top to bottom :)
>
> I think the best path forward now is to finish off getblocktemplate support
> in the various tools so it's possible to pool for payout purposes without
> giving up control of block creation modulo the coinbase. Combined with the
> recent sipa performance enhancing goodness, it would hopefully persuade some
> non-trivial chunk of hashpower to go back to running their own node and
> start the process of turning pools merely into payout trackers rather than
> block selectors.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> wrote:
>>
>> Jeff, I think the message you're replying to got clipped.
>>
>> Satoshi's only comment AFAIK on the topic of GPU mining was to wish for a
>> gentlemen's agreement to postpone it as long as possible, to help make sure
>> the distribution of coins was as even as possible. Indeed this predated
>> pooled mining.
>>
>



-- 
Jeff Garzik
Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist
BitPay, Inc.      https://bitpay.com/



  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-18 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-17 16:14 [Bitcoin-development] Decentralizing ming Jeff Garzik
2014-07-17 17:22 ` slush
2014-07-18 10:41   ` Mike Hearn
2014-07-18 10:43     ` Mike Hearn
2014-07-18 13:44       ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2014-07-19  0:51         ` Emin Gün Sirer
2014-07-19  0:54           ` Emin Gün Sirer
2014-07-18 13:39   ` Jeff Garzik

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