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* [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
@ 2011-10-08 21:13 Gavin Andresen
  2011-10-08 21:25 ` Christian Decker
                   ` (3 more replies)
  0 siblings, 4 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Gavin Andresen @ 2011-10-08 21:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bitcoin Dev

Reposting here from the forums:

Good news: I'm just about to get a Bitcoin-Qt version 0.5 Release
Candidate 1 out, with a much-improved GUI.

Bad news: all the translations for the old wxWidgets Bitcoin are
obsolete, and the process for making translations is different.

Is anybody willing to write new translations?  Here's what you'll need to know:

Three translations already exist: de nl and ru.
Translations are stored in ".ts" files in the src/qt/locale folder
The 'QT Linguist' tool can be used to create translations
... or maybe an online tool like Transifex could/should be used to
crowd-source the work

And is anybody willing to take the job of coordinating translation
efforts, figuring out if Transifex is a good tool to use, and writing
some documentation to make it easy for people to create and submit new
translations?


References:
  https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/qt/locale
  http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/linguist-manual.html
  http://www.transifex.net/

-- 
--
Gavin Andresen



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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-08 21:13 [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations Gavin Andresen
@ 2011-10-08 21:25 ` Christian Decker
  2011-10-08 23:06 ` Martinx - ジェームズ
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Christian Decker @ 2011-10-08 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gavin Andresen; +Cc: Bitcoin Dev

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Damn, german is already contributed :-)
Well I can still do the italian one and check german then.

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com>wrote:

> Reposting here from the forums:
>
> Good news: I'm just about to get a Bitcoin-Qt version 0.5 Release
> Candidate 1 out, with a much-improved GUI.
>
> Bad news: all the translations for the old wxWidgets Bitcoin are
> obsolete, and the process for making translations is different.
>
> Is anybody willing to write new translations?  Here's what you'll need to
> know:
>
> Three translations already exist: de nl and ru.
> Translations are stored in ".ts" files in the src/qt/locale folder
> The 'QT Linguist' tool can be used to create translations
> ... or maybe an online tool like Transifex could/should be used to
> crowd-source the work
>
> And is anybody willing to take the job of coordinating translation
> efforts, figuring out if Transifex is a good tool to use, and writing
> some documentation to make it easy for people to create and submit new
> translations?
>
>
> References:
>  https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/qt/locale
>  http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/linguist-manual.html
>  http://www.transifex.net/
>
> --
> --
> Gavin Andresen
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable.
> Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security
> threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
> sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2
> _______________________________________________
> Bitcoin-development mailing list
> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>

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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-08 21:13 [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations Gavin Andresen
  2011-10-08 21:25 ` Christian Decker
@ 2011-10-08 23:06 ` Martinx - ジェームズ
  2011-10-08 23:12 ` Luke-Jr
  2011-10-22 10:51 ` Nils Schneider
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Martinx - ジェームズ @ 2011-10-08 23:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gavin Andresen; +Cc: Bitcoin Dev

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Hi!

 I can translate it to Brazilian Portuguese.

Best,
Thiago

On 8 October 2011 18:13, Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Reposting here from the forums:
>
> Good news: I'm just about to get a Bitcoin-Qt version 0.5 Release
> Candidate 1 out, with a much-improved GUI.
>
> Bad news: all the translations for the old wxWidgets Bitcoin are
> obsolete, and the process for making translations is different.
>
> Is anybody willing to write new translations?  Here's what you'll need to
> know:
>
> Three translations already exist: de nl and ru.
> Translations are stored in ".ts" files in the src/qt/locale folder
> The 'QT Linguist' tool can be used to create translations
> ... or maybe an online tool like Transifex could/should be used to
> crowd-source the work
>
> And is anybody willing to take the job of coordinating translation
> efforts, figuring out if Transifex is a good tool to use, and writing
> some documentation to make it easy for people to create and submit new
> translations?
>
>
> References:
>  https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/qt/locale
>  http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/linguist-manual.html
>  http://www.transifex.net/
>
> --
> --
> Gavin Andresen
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable.
> Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security
> threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
> sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2
> _______________________________________________
> Bitcoin-development mailing list
> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>

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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-08 21:13 [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations Gavin Andresen
  2011-10-08 21:25 ` Christian Decker
  2011-10-08 23:06 ` Martinx - ジェームズ
@ 2011-10-08 23:12 ` Luke-Jr
  2011-10-10  4:02   ` Luke-Jr
  2011-10-10  9:22   ` Mike Hearn
  2011-10-22 10:51 ` Nils Schneider
  3 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Luke-Jr @ 2011-10-08 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bitcoin-development

Please at least get Coinbaser merged for 0.5. It has had a lot of testing on 
Eligius for months, a landslide of support for the new JSON-RPC method (as 
requested), and I have even gone to the effort to document it. As I will no 
longer be using bitcoind for Eligius soon, I have little incentive to 
maintain/rebase coinbaser across a 0.6 development period.



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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-08 23:12 ` Luke-Jr
@ 2011-10-10  4:02   ` Luke-Jr
  2011-10-10  9:22   ` Mike Hearn
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Luke-Jr @ 2011-10-10  4:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bitcoin-development

On Saturday, October 08, 2011 7:12:31 PM Luke-Jr wrote:
> Please at least get Coinbaser merged for 0.5. It has had a lot of testing
> on Eligius for months, a landslide of support for the new JSON-RPC method
> (as requested), and I have even gone to the effort to document it. As I
> will no longer be using bitcoind for Eligius soon, I have little incentive
> to maintain/rebase coinbaser across a 0.6 development period.

FWIW, Gavin's IRC response more or less amounts to being unwilling to merge 
this even though it was ready, tested, and even fulfilled his original request 
for community support for the new JSON-RPC call, all long before he announced 
the feature freeze on 0.5... hopefully it'll get merged to 0.6 git before it 
needs a rebase. :/



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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-08 23:12 ` Luke-Jr
  2011-10-10  4:02   ` Luke-Jr
@ 2011-10-10  9:22   ` Mike Hearn
  2011-10-10 13:05     ` Luke-Jr
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Mike Hearn @ 2011-10-10  9:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Luke-Jr; +Cc: bitcoin-development

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On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Luke-Jr <luke@dashjr.org> wrote:
> As I will no longer be using bitcoind for Eligius soon

What will you be using instead? Isn't bitcoind a requirement for running a
pool?

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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-10  9:22   ` Mike Hearn
@ 2011-10-10 13:05     ` Luke-Jr
  2011-10-10 13:18       ` Mike Hearn
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Luke-Jr @ 2011-10-10 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Hearn; +Cc: bitcoin-development

On Monday, October 10, 2011 5:22:28 AM Mike Hearn wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 1:12 AM, Luke-Jr <luke@dashjr.org> wrote:
> > As I will no longer be using bitcoind for Eligius soon
> 
> What will you be using instead? Isn't bitcoind a requirement for running a
> pool?

Writing some custom software designed to more efficiently create work.
To clarify, bitcoind will still serve the purpose of peering with external 
nodes and picking out valid transactions to be accepted into blocks; it just 
won't be involved in the primary operations of the pool.



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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-10 13:05     ` Luke-Jr
@ 2011-10-10 13:18       ` Mike Hearn
  2011-10-10 14:11         ` Luke-Jr
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Mike Hearn @ 2011-10-10 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Luke-Jr; +Cc: bitcoin-development

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>
> > > As I will no longer be using bitcoind for Eligius soon
> >
> > What will you be using instead? Isn't bitcoind a requirement for running
> a
> > pool?
>
> Writing some custom software designed to more efficiently create work.
> To clarify, bitcoind will still serve the purpose of peering with external
> nodes and picking out valid transactions to be accepted into blocks; it
> just
> won't be involved in the primary operations of the pool.
>

Ah, I see. Sounds a bit like the direction Steve is going with poolserverj.
So your custom software would handle incrementing the extraNonce,
recalculating the merkle tree/root, and so on?

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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-10 13:18       ` Mike Hearn
@ 2011-10-10 14:11         ` Luke-Jr
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Luke-Jr @ 2011-10-10 14:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Hearn; +Cc: bitcoin-development

On Monday, October 10, 2011 9:18:07 AM Mike Hearn wrote:
> > > > As I will no longer be using bitcoind for Eligius soon
> > > 
> > > What will you be using instead? Isn't bitcoind a requirement for
> > > running
> > 
> > a
> > 
> > > pool?
> > 
> > Writing some custom software designed to more efficiently create work.
> > To clarify, bitcoind will still serve the purpose of peering with
> > external nodes and picking out valid transactions to be accepted into
> > blocks; it just
> > won't be involved in the primary operations of the pool.
> 
> Ah, I see. Sounds a bit like the direction Steve is going with poolserverj.
> So your custom software would handle incrementing the extraNonce,
> recalculating the merkle tree/root, and so on?

Yes, does that already. Hard part right now is implementing a stateless TCP/IP 
"stack" so it can ignore DDoS sanely.



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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-08 21:13 [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations Gavin Andresen
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-10-08 23:12 ` Luke-Jr
@ 2011-10-22 10:51 ` Nils Schneider
  2011-10-22 12:26   ` Geir Harald Hansen
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Nils Schneider @ 2011-10-22 10:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bitcoin-development

> And is anybody willing to take the job of coordinating translation
> efforts, figuring out if Transifex is a good tool to use, and writing
> some documentation to make it easy for people to create and submit new
> translations?

I have exported all .ts to transifex.

https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/bitcoin/resource/tx/

I'm now trying to figure out how to use it but it looks like

tx pull && git add src/qt/locale/* && git commit src/qt/locale/ && git push

will be all that's needed to push translation updates from transifex to
github.



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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-22 10:51 ` Nils Schneider
@ 2011-10-22 12:26   ` Geir Harald Hansen
  2011-10-22 13:28     ` Nils Schneider
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Geir Harald Hansen @ 2011-10-22 12:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bitcoin-development

On 22.10.2011 12:51, Nils Schneider wrote:
>> And is anybody willing to take the job of coordinating translation
>> efforts, figuring out if Transifex is a good tool to use, and writing
>> some documentation to make it easy for people to create and submit new
>> translations?
> 
> I have exported all .ts to transifex.
> 
> https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/bitcoin/resource/tx/

If you add Norwegian Bokmål, I can do that one. Language code "nb".

Regards,
Geir Harald Hansen




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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-22 12:26   ` Geir Harald Hansen
@ 2011-10-22 13:28     ` Nils Schneider
  2011-10-22 16:14       ` Geir Harald Hansen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Nils Schneider @ 2011-10-22 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bitcoin-development

I think it's possible to add it yourself. Just click on "add translation"

On 22.10.2011 14:26, Geir Harald Hansen wrote:
> On 22.10.2011 12:51, Nils Schneider wrote:
>>> And is anybody willing to take the job of coordinating translation
>>> efforts, figuring out if Transifex is a good tool to use, and writing
>>> some documentation to make it easy for people to create and submit new
>>> translations?
>>
>> I have exported all .ts to transifex.
>>
>> https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/bitcoin/resource/tx/
> 
> If you add Norwegian Bokmål, I can do that one. Language code "nb".
> 
> Regards,
> Geir Harald Hansen
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the
> demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly.
> Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn 
> about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. 
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Bitcoin-development mailing list
> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
> 




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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-22 13:28     ` Nils Schneider
@ 2011-10-22 16:14       ` Geir Harald Hansen
  2011-10-24 11:24         ` Christian Decker
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Geir Harald Hansen @ 2011-10-22 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bitcoin-development

What do you know, it worked. Finished.

Once again Norway finishes ahead of Sweden. :P

By the way, I had to translate some of the exact same strings 2-3 times.
That's something you may want to improve on.

On 22.10.2011 15:28, Nils Schneider wrote:
> I think it's possible to add it yourself. Just click on "add translation"
> 
> On 22.10.2011 14:26, Geir Harald Hansen wrote:
>> On 22.10.2011 12:51, Nils Schneider wrote:
>>>> And is anybody willing to take the job of coordinating translation
>>>> efforts, figuring out if Transifex is a good tool to use, and writing
>>>> some documentation to make it easy for people to create and submit new
>>>> translations?
>>>
>>> I have exported all .ts to transifex.
>>>
>>> https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/bitcoin/resource/tx/
>>
>> If you add Norwegian Bokmål, I can do that one. Language code "nb".
>>
>> Regards,
>> Geir Harald Hansen
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the
>> demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly.
>> Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn 
>> about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. 
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bitcoin-development mailing list
>> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>>
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the
> demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly.
> Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn 
> about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. 
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Bitcoin-development mailing list
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
> 





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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-22 16:14       ` Geir Harald Hansen
@ 2011-10-24 11:24         ` Christian Decker
  2011-10-24 18:10           ` John Smith
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Christian Decker @ 2011-10-24 11:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Geir Harald Hansen; +Cc: bitcoin-development

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Actually no, the same string may have to be translated in different ways
depending on the context they appear in. That sometimes happens for italian,
and I'm sure it happens in other cases too. Not sure whether this is the
cause for duplicate strings for now, but it might.

Regards,
Chris

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Geir Harald Hansen
<operator@bitminter.com>wrote:

> What do you know, it worked. Finished.
>
> Once again Norway finishes ahead of Sweden. :P
>
> By the way, I had to translate some of the exact same strings 2-3 times.
> That's something you may want to improve on.
>
> On 22.10.2011 15:28, Nils Schneider wrote:
> > I think it's possible to add it yourself. Just click on "add translation"
> >
> > On 22.10.2011 14:26, Geir Harald Hansen wrote:
> >> On 22.10.2011 12:51, Nils Schneider wrote:
> >>>> And is anybody willing to take the job of coordinating translation
> >>>> efforts, figuring out if Transifex is a good tool to use, and writing
> >>>> some documentation to make it easy for people to create and submit new
> >>>> translations?
> >>>
> >>> I have exported all .ts to transifex.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/bitcoin/resource/tx/
> >>
> >> If you add Norwegian Bokmål, I can do that one. Language code "nb".
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Geir Harald Hansen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the
> >> demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly.
> >> Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn
> >> about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities.
> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Bitcoin-development mailing list
> >> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the
> > demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly.
> > Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn
> > about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities.
> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bitcoin-development mailing list
> > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the
> demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly.
> Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn
> about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Bitcoin-development mailing list
> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>

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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-24 11:24         ` Christian Decker
@ 2011-10-24 18:10           ` John Smith
  2011-10-24 18:55             ` Geir Harald Hansen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: John Smith @ 2011-10-24 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christian Decker; +Cc: bitcoin-development

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Indeed. It could make sense. That's the reason why Qt distinguishes strings
based on context as well as content.

But it could also be nonsense. Can you be more specific as to which strings?

JS

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Christian Decker <
decker.christian@gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually no, the same string may have to be translated in different ways
> depending on the context they appear in. That sometimes happens for italian,
> and I'm sure it happens in other cases too. Not sure whether this is the
> cause for duplicate strings for now, but it might.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Geir Harald Hansen <
> operator@bitminter.com> wrote:
>
>> What do you know, it worked. Finished.
>>
>> Once again Norway finishes ahead of Sweden. :P
>>
>> By the way, I had to translate some of the exact same strings 2-3 times.
>> That's something you may want to improve on.
>>
>> On 22.10.2011 15:28, Nils Schneider wrote:
>> > I think it's possible to add it yourself. Just click on "add
>> translation"
>> >
>> > On 22.10.2011 14:26, Geir Harald Hansen wrote:
>> >> On 22.10.2011 12:51, Nils Schneider wrote:
>> >>>> And is anybody willing to take the job of coordinating translation
>> >>>> efforts, figuring out if Transifex is a good tool to use, and writing
>> >>>> some documentation to make it easy for people to create and submit
>> new
>> >>>> translations?
>> >>>
>> >>> I have exported all .ts to transifex.
>> >>>
>> >>> https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/bitcoin/resource/tx/
>> >>
>> >> If you add Norwegian Bokmål, I can do that one. Language code "nb".
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Geir Harald Hansen
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the
>> >> demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly.
>> >> Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn
>> >> about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities.
>> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Bitcoin-development mailing list
>> >> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the
>> > demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly.
>> > Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn
>> > about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities.
>> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Bitcoin-development mailing list
>> > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the
>> demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly.
>> Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn
>> about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bitcoin-development mailing list
>> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the
> demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly.
> Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn
> about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev
> _______________________________________________
> Bitcoin-development mailing list
> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>
>

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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-24 18:10           ` John Smith
@ 2011-10-24 18:55             ` Geir Harald Hansen
  2011-10-25  5:02               ` John Smith
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Geir Harald Hansen @ 2011-10-24 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: bitcoin-development

Three quick examples of duplicated strings. There are many more. Some of
the smaller ones may make sense to have duplicated several times in
english as their translated versions may differ in other languages. But
with these below I don't see the point.

Twice, with a small difference (<b> vs. none):

WARNING: If you encrypt your wallet and lose your passphrase, you will
<b>LOSE ALL OF YOUR BITCOINS</b>! Are you sure you wish to encrypt your
wallet?

WARNING: If you encrypt your wallet and lose your passphrase, you will
LOSE ALL OF YOUR BITCOINS! Are you sure you wish to encrypt your wallet?

Again twice, with a small difference (%s vs %1):

This transaction is over the size limit. You can still send it for a fee
of %1, which goes to the nodes that process your transaction and helps
to support the network. Do you want to pay the fee?

This transaction is over the size limit. You can still send it for a fee
of %s, which goes to the nodes that process your transaction and helps
to support the network. Do you want to pay the fee?

Twice, looks exactly the same:

Generated coins must wait 120 blocks before they can be spent. When you
generated this block, it was broadcast to the network to be added to the
block chain. If it fails to get into the chain, it will change to "not
accepted" and not be spendable. This may occasionally happen if another
node generates a block within a few seconds of yours.

Generated coins must wait 120 blocks before they can be spent. When you
generated this block, it was broadcast to the network to be added to the
block chain. If it fails to get into the chain, it will change to "not
accepted" and not be spendable. This may occasionally happen if another
node generates a block within a few seconds of yours.

Regards,
Geir Harald Hansen

On 24.10.2011 20:10, John Smith wrote:
> 
> Indeed. It could make sense. That's the reason why Qt distinguishes
> strings based on context as well as content.
> 
> But it could also be nonsense. Can you be more specific as to which strings?
> 
> JS
> 
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Christian Decker
> <decker.christian@gmail.com <mailto:decker.christian@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Actually no, the same string may have to be translated in different
>     ways depending on the context they appear in. That sometimes happens
>     for italian, and I'm sure it happens in other cases too. Not sure
>     whether this is the cause for duplicate strings for now, but it might.
> 
>     Regards,
>     Chris
> 
> 
>     On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Geir Harald Hansen
>     <operator@bitminter.com <mailto:operator@bitminter.com>> wrote:
> 
>         What do you know, it worked. Finished.
> 
>         Once again Norway finishes ahead of Sweden. :P
> 
>         By the way, I had to translate some of the exact same strings
>         2-3 times.
>         That's something you may want to improve on.
> 
>         On 22.10.2011 15:28, Nils Schneider wrote:
>         > I think it's possible to add it yourself. Just click on "add
>         translation"
>         >
>         > On 22.10.2011 14:26, Geir Harald Hansen wrote:
>         >> On 22.10.2011 12:51, Nils Schneider wrote:
>         >>>> And is anybody willing to take the job of coordinating
>         translation
>         >>>> efforts, figuring out if Transifex is a good tool to use,
>         and writing
>         >>>> some documentation to make it easy for people to create and
>         submit new
>         >>>> translations?
>         >>>
>         >>> I have exported all .ts to transifex.
>         >>>
>         >>> https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/bitcoin/resource/tx/
>         >>
>         >> If you add Norwegian Bokmål, I can do that one. Language code
>         "nb".
>         >>
>         >> Regards,
>         >> Geir Harald Hansen





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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-24 18:55             ` Geir Harald Hansen
@ 2011-10-25  5:02               ` John Smith
  2011-10-29 21:16                 ` John Smith
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: John Smith @ 2011-10-25  5:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Geir Harald Hansen; +Cc: bitcoin-development

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Those indeed seems weird... I'll take a look at it.

JS

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Geir Harald Hansen
<operator@bitminter.com>wrote:

> Three quick examples of duplicated strings. There are many more. Some of
> the smaller ones may make sense to have duplicated several times in
> english as their translated versions may differ in other languages. But
> with these below I don't see the point.
>
> Twice, with a small difference (<b> vs. none):
>
> WARNING: If you encrypt your wallet and lose your passphrase, you will
> <b>LOSE ALL OF YOUR BITCOINS</b>! Are you sure you wish to encrypt your
> wallet?
>
> WARNING: If you encrypt your wallet and lose your passphrase, you will
> LOSE ALL OF YOUR BITCOINS! Are you sure you wish to encrypt your wallet?
>
> Again twice, with a small difference (%s vs %1):
>
> This transaction is over the size limit. You can still send it for a fee
> of %1, which goes to the nodes that process your transaction and helps
> to support the network. Do you want to pay the fee?
>
> This transaction is over the size limit. You can still send it for a fee
> of %s, which goes to the nodes that process your transaction and helps
> to support the network. Do you want to pay the fee?
>
> Twice, looks exactly the same:
>
> Generated coins must wait 120 blocks before they can be spent. When you
> generated this block, it was broadcast to the network to be added to the
> block chain. If it fails to get into the chain, it will change to "not
> accepted" and not be spendable. This may occasionally happen if another
> node generates a block within a few seconds of yours.
>
> Generated coins must wait 120 blocks before they can be spent. When you
> generated this block, it was broadcast to the network to be added to the
> block chain. If it fails to get into the chain, it will change to "not
> accepted" and not be spendable. This may occasionally happen if another
> node generates a block within a few seconds of yours.
>
> Regards,
> Geir Harald Hansen
>
> On 24.10.2011 20:10, John Smith wrote:
> >
> > Indeed. It could make sense. That's the reason why Qt distinguishes
> > strings based on context as well as content.
> >
> > But it could also be nonsense. Can you be more specific as to which
> strings?
> >
> > JS
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Christian Decker
> > <decker.christian@gmail.com <mailto:decker.christian@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Actually no, the same string may have to be translated in different
> >     ways depending on the context they appear in. That sometimes happens
> >     for italian, and I'm sure it happens in other cases too. Not sure
> >     whether this is the cause for duplicate strings for now, but it
> might.
> >
> >     Regards,
> >     Chris
> >
> >
> >     On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Geir Harald Hansen
> >     <operator@bitminter.com <mailto:operator@bitminter.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         What do you know, it worked. Finished.
> >
> >         Once again Norway finishes ahead of Sweden. :P
> >
> >         By the way, I had to translate some of the exact same strings
> >         2-3 times.
> >         That's something you may want to improve on.
> >
> >         On 22.10.2011 15:28, Nils Schneider wrote:
> >         > I think it's possible to add it yourself. Just click on "add
> >         translation"
> >         >
> >         > On 22.10.2011 14:26, Geir Harald Hansen wrote:
> >         >> On 22.10.2011 12:51, Nils Schneider wrote:
> >         >>>> And is anybody willing to take the job of coordinating
> >         translation
> >         >>>> efforts, figuring out if Transifex is a good tool to use,
> >         and writing
> >         >>>> some documentation to make it easy for people to create and
> >         submit new
> >         >>>> translations?
> >         >>>
> >         >>> I have exported all .ts to transifex.
> >         >>>
> >         >>> https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/bitcoin/resource/tx/
> >         >>
> >         >> If you add Norwegian Bokmål, I can do that one. Language code
> >         "nb".
> >         >>
> >         >> Regards,
> >         >> Geir Harald Hansen
>
>
>
>
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Help wanted: translations
  2011-10-25  5:02               ` John Smith
@ 2011-10-29 21:16                 ` John Smith
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: John Smith @ 2011-10-29 21:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Geir Harald Hansen; +Cc: bitcoin-development

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Fixed:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/8d3e1becf0fa6c27c7df4a52daf181282a3d2468

It seems that somehow strings from the old Wx UI had ended up in
bitcoinstrings.cpp. I re-ran the string extraction script and the duplicated
messaged should be gone.

JS

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:02 AM, John Smith <witchspace81@gmail.com> wrote:

> Those indeed seems weird... I'll take a look at it.
>
> JS
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Geir Harald Hansen <
> operator@bitminter.com> wrote:
>
>> Three quick examples of duplicated strings. There are many more. Some of
>> the smaller ones may make sense to have duplicated several times in
>> english as their translated versions may differ in other languages. But
>> with these below I don't see the point.
>>
>> Twice, with a small difference (<b> vs. none):
>>
>> WARNING: If you encrypt your wallet and lose your passphrase, you will
>> <b>LOSE ALL OF YOUR BITCOINS</b>! Are you sure you wish to encrypt your
>> wallet?
>>
>> WARNING: If you encrypt your wallet and lose your passphrase, you will
>> LOSE ALL OF YOUR BITCOINS! Are you sure you wish to encrypt your wallet?
>>
>> Again twice, with a small difference (%s vs %1):
>>
>> This transaction is over the size limit. You can still send it for a fee
>> of %1, which goes to the nodes that process your transaction and helps
>> to support the network. Do you want to pay the fee?
>>
>> This transaction is over the size limit. You can still send it for a fee
>> of %s, which goes to the nodes that process your transaction and helps
>> to support the network. Do you want to pay the fee?
>>
>> Twice, looks exactly the same:
>>
>> Generated coins must wait 120 blocks before they can be spent. When you
>> generated this block, it was broadcast to the network to be added to the
>> block chain. If it fails to get into the chain, it will change to "not
>> accepted" and not be spendable. This may occasionally happen if another
>> node generates a block within a few seconds of yours.
>>
>> Generated coins must wait 120 blocks before they can be spent. When you
>> generated this block, it was broadcast to the network to be added to the
>> block chain. If it fails to get into the chain, it will change to "not
>> accepted" and not be spendable. This may occasionally happen if another
>> node generates a block within a few seconds of yours.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Geir Harald Hansen
>>
>> On 24.10.2011 20:10, John Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > Indeed. It could make sense. That's the reason why Qt distinguishes
>> > strings based on context as well as content.
>> >
>> > But it could also be nonsense. Can you be more specific as to which
>> strings?
>> >
>> > JS
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Christian Decker
>> > <decker.christian@gmail.com <mailto:decker.christian@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Actually no, the same string may have to be translated in different
>> >     ways depending on the context they appear in. That sometimes happens
>> >     for italian, and I'm sure it happens in other cases too. Not sure
>> >     whether this is the cause for duplicate strings for now, but it
>> might.
>> >
>> >     Regards,
>> >     Chris
>> >
>> >
>> >     On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Geir Harald Hansen
>> >     <operator@bitminter.com <mailto:operator@bitminter.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         What do you know, it worked. Finished.
>> >
>> >         Once again Norway finishes ahead of Sweden. :P
>> >
>> >         By the way, I had to translate some of the exact same strings
>> >         2-3 times.
>> >         That's something you may want to improve on.
>> >
>> >         On 22.10.2011 15:28, Nils Schneider wrote:
>> >         > I think it's possible to add it yourself. Just click on "add
>> >         translation"
>> >         >
>> >         > On 22.10.2011 14:26, Geir Harald Hansen wrote:
>> >         >> On 22.10.2011 12:51, Nils Schneider wrote:
>> >         >>>> And is anybody willing to take the job of coordinating
>> >         translation
>> >         >>>> efforts, figuring out if Transifex is a good tool to use,
>> >         and writing
>> >         >>>> some documentation to make it easy for people to create and
>> >         submit new
>> >         >>>> translations?
>> >         >>>
>> >         >>> I have exported all .ts to transifex.
>> >         >>>
>> >         >>> https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/bitcoin/resource/tx/
>> >         >>
>> >         >> If you add Norwegian Bokmål, I can do that one. Language code
>> >         "nb".
>> >         >>
>> >         >> Regards,
>> >         >> Geir Harald Hansen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the
>> demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly.
>> Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn
>> about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev
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>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>>
>
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