From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1VqBw1-0001Us-Hn for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 01:16:25 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.212.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.170; envelope-from=allen.piscitello@gmail.com; helo=mail-wi0-f170.google.com; Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com ([209.85.212.170]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1VqBw0-0000Xz-Ec for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 10 Dec 2013 01:16:25 +0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hq4so4651345wib.3 for ; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:16:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.78.179 with SMTP id c19mr6409201wjx.84.1386638178244; Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.190.133 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Dec 2013 17:16:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52A650E5.9070801@gmail.com> References: <20131209221130.GA22556@shavo.dd-wrt> <52A650E5.9070801@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 19:16:18 -0600 Message-ID: From: Allen Piscitello To: Jameson Lopp Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bfcf6a20bdc8804ed23dcfc X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: doubleclick.net] -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (allen.piscitello[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1VqBw0-0000Xz-Ec Cc: Bitcoin Development Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 01:16:25 -0000 --047d7bfcf6a20bdc8804ed23dcfc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've got a better idea. Ben Bernake needs a new job. Let's just let him set the block reward. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Jameson Lopp wrote: > To piggyback on Jeff, > > Any proposal that is going to add reliance upon data from third parties > outside of the Bitcoin network itself is likely going to be rejected > outright. This opens far too many potential vulnerabilities. > > "The exchanges that are kept track of could be hard coded into Bitcoin > or the miner could choose, how this works is not something I'm > personally focused on." > > Yeah... you can't just gloss over a little detail like that. There must > be consensus between the miners, otherwise a solved block will be > rejected by a miner's peers. > -- > Jameson Lopp > Software Engineer > Bronto Software, Inc > > On 12/09/2013 06:10 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Ryan Carboni > wrote: > >> It is not a violation of the trust of those holding the currency. Many > >> people bought Bitcoin in the hopes that it's value in the relation of > other > >> currencies will increase, not because there's a fixed money supply. The > >> majority of people using Bitcoin as a currency in exchange for real > goods > >> are using the exchanges. > > > > Your proposal has been met with widespread laughter. Were I not ill > > with the flu, mockery would ensue as well. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK > Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. > Download it for free now! > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > --047d7bfcf6a20bdc8804ed23dcfc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've got a better idea. =A0Ben Bernake needs a new job= . =A0Let's just let him set the block reward.


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:23 PM, J= ameson Lopp <jameson.lopp@gmail.com> wrote:
To piggyback on Jeff,

Any proposal that is going to add reliance upon data from third parties
outside of the Bitcoin network itself is likely going to be rejected
outright. This opens far too many potential vulnerabilities.

"The exchanges that are kept track of could be hard coded into Bitcoin=
or the miner could choose, how this works is not something I'm
personally focused on."

Yeah... you can't just gloss over a little detail like that. Ther= e must
be consensus between the miners, otherwise a solved block will be
rejected by a miner's peers.
--
Jameson Lopp
Software Engineer
Bronto Software, Inc

On 12/09/2013 06:10 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Ryan Carboni <ryan.jc.pc@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It is not a violation of the trust of those holding the currency. = Many
>> people bought Bitcoin in the hopes that it's value in the rela= tion of other
>> currencies will increase, not because there's a fixed money su= pply. The
>> majority of people using Bitcoin as a currency in exchange for rea= l goods
>> are using the exchanges.
>
> Your proposal has been met with widespread laughter. =A0Were I not ill=
> with the flu, mockery would ensue as well.
>

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