From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WXWKE-0000Kd-Cm for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:44:30 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from mail-vc0-f171.google.com ([209.85.220.171]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WXWK9-0004JM-0W for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:44:30 +0000 Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id lg15so760016vcb.16 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 06:44:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=8lr9iTB6dyK9hlfAyXP4sRKdV8SGIOuEdRDWNnRsXcU=; b=RIkSExn/7qwVcOobO3X0JdkbTVGiOx2I8yTpiN5tQo6kcB5ExK+k8bdTaJqdqe1a12 yPcvaMv9Bu9OE0Jatq7/D1XKkFN/XV+r0elQIZ7ay1xZ2iK+7kEXybR2zO7fRNxx7hq6 Hap5TlGnQcHotONwNoyYqVC1+kD9q3OtEPAh+9UrYmUyZ/80TTZk+CdRatejv9PcGDho KxdSQPnK42JTWyRxk6qhj5JMdF34WxT9Qjz0DIfCa+jw2xxGbPrQycMvMOjDZiyZMq7y E9ZCVWPq6nz/74i4B4Yr8amH50bKti8QIScacDmZ8dUH7vneKiy1niylchkktXz9d1c/ A2gQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkplwhBvycC1f3fezNeqUoq+YcYLVxRP5J3YuXWqiI/YWUteVAVThIDwYgowW5YypCfuUz7 X-Received: by 10.58.90.99 with SMTP id bv3mr166410veb.34.1396964659455; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 06:44:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: marek@palatinus.cz Received: by 10.58.234.100 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 06:43:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53344FF8.7030204@gk2.sk> From: slush Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 15:43:49 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: G_OAUvVIyNuz10vA-TMhws12fIc Message-ID: To: Pieter Wuille Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01182b8e4a6c5604f6882e88 X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (slush[at]centrum.cz) 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Headers-End: 1WXWK9-0004JM-0W Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] New BIP32 structure X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:44:30 -0000 --089e01182b8e4a6c5604f6882e88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 tl;dr; It is dangerous to expect that other seed than "xprv" does not contain bitcoins or that "xprv" contains only bitcoins, because technically are both situations possible. It is still safer to do the lookup; the magic itself is ambiguous. Marek On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:40 PM, slush wrote: > > Serialization magic of bip32 seed is in my opinion completely unnecessary. > Most of software does not care about it anyway; You can use xprv/xpub pair > for main net, testnet, litecoin, dogecoin, whatevercoin. > > Instead using the same seed (xprv) and then separate the chains *inside* > the bip32 path seems more useful to me. > > Marek > --089e01182b8e4a6c5604f6882e88 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
tl;dr;

It is dangerous to expect that o= ther seed than "xprv" does not contain bitcoins or that "xpr= v" contains only bitcoins, because technically are both situations pos= sible. It is still safer to do the lookup; the magic itself is ambiguous.

Marek

On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:40 PM, slush <slush@centr= um.cz> wrote:
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Serial= ization magic of bip32 seed is in my opinion completely unnecessary. Most o= f software does not care about it anyway; You can use xprv/xpub pair for ma= in net, testnet, litecoin, dogecoin, whatevercoin.

Instead using the same seed (xprv) and then separate th= e chains *inside* the bip32 path seems more useful to me.

Marek=A0

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