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From: Marek Palatinus <marek@palatinus.cz>
To: Sergio Demian Lerner <sergio.d.lerner@gmail.com>,
	 Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Making AsicBoost irrelevant
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 15:08:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJna-HjM-4D4EXMkeSSquRT3r0TMWd+zL8ZRZZ5iQfesqZdB2g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKzdR-pFZGsQZPrHRbJhviFemSLPf8Bo6UWSaaQ-BurCsnAAWw@mail.gmail.com>

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Ehm, I though those discussions about "ASICs are bad, because X" ended
years ago by starting "ASIC unfriendly" altcoins. ASIC industry is twisted
even without AsicBoost. I don't see any particular reason why to change
rules just because of 10% edge.

This is opening Pandora box and it is potentially extremely dangerous for
the health of the network. You cannot know in advance what you'll break by
changing the rules.

Disclaimer: I don't have any stake in any ASIC company/facility.

slush

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Sergio Demian Lerner <
> sergio.d.lerner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> You can find it here:
>> https://bitslog.wordpress.com/2014/03/18/the-re-design-of-the-bitcoin-block-header/
>>
>> Basically, the idea is to put in the first 64 bytes a 4 byte hash of the
>> second 64-byte chunk. That design also allows increased nonce space in the
>> first 64 bytes.
>>
>> My mistake here. I didn't recalled correctly my own idea. The idea is to
> include in the second 64-byte chunk a 4-byte hash of the first chunk, not
> the opposite.
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-11 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-10 18:57 [bitcoin-dev] Making AsicBoost irrelevant Peter Todd
2016-05-10 20:27 ` Tier Nolan
2016-05-10 21:35   ` Matt Corallo
2016-05-10 21:43   ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2016-05-10 22:59     ` Matt Corallo
2016-05-11 12:20     ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2016-05-11 13:08       ` Marek Palatinus [this message]
2016-05-11 21:01         ` Matt Corallo
2016-05-11 22:16           ` Simon Liu
2016-05-11 22:50             ` Peter Todd
2016-05-11 14:28       ` Luke Dashjr
2016-05-11 16:24         ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-11 18:28           ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-11 22:49             ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-12  2:27     ` Tom Harding
2016-05-12  2:31       ` Allen Piscitello
2016-05-12  2:33       ` Peter Todd
2016-05-12  4:01         ` Tom Harding
2016-05-10 21:49 ` Marco Pontello
2016-05-10 22:17 ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2016-05-10 22:27   ` Chris Riley
2016-05-11  3:14 ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-11  9:21   ` Jannes Faber
2016-05-11 10:36     ` Henning Kopp
2016-05-11 10:47       ` Jannes Faber
2016-05-11 22:42         ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-11 22:58           ` Gregory Maxwell
2016-05-12  7:29             ` Tom
2016-05-12 11:05           ` Jorge Timón
2016-05-11 14:07   ` Jorge Timón
2016-05-11 14:18     ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2016-05-11 14:30       ` Jannes Faber
2016-05-11 20:50   ` Matt Corallo
2016-05-11 22:00     ` James Hilliard
2016-05-11 23:01   ` Peter Todd
2016-05-12  0:02     ` Gregory Maxwell
2016-05-12  1:23       ` Russell O'Connor
2016-05-12  1:58         ` Peter Todd
2016-05-12  1:58         ` Matt Corallo

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