From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from silver.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [140.211.166.136]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E81CC016F for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 14:12:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by silver.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BF12040F for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 14:12:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org Received: from silver.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8JYKJS6qL-vk for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 14:12:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-io1-f44.google.com (mail-io1-f44.google.com [209.85.166.44]) by silver.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4418A20364 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 14:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io1-f44.google.com with SMTP id k18so26152074ion.0 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 07:12:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=q32-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=okYqtBt9EC//FTH9V69RNWQW+hGQzhlRWgcebxihYLQ=; b=U3ODgrGfjTGJYbB3gJdwbVkPMh9pdDMIXed+QxZ3JjHcgWqMQ1v/t/RS0YfCjgeDBK uk1WP1iNfjbAd8SEcCNpGSUmvVbSAIrQJBYs/gkYqDaOlkZ2ef3mN/TePPBcu0nD/XA6 1wCJcSjO01rKmJXZOutJ1IpE4e4GeeaFlfYYuz3yz75QrjhoaL5RzKG1GCHVuWAe76iV 3QxI9Aan8VyNETPvLKXUNNY0PyXSaUjBJy3Kcknn+e84cNWYL9F1trj/T3VSJbwEcnN+ tlx0/tBzYxQmtiduRyKZdXMEbn3VM8jrP9AvgLnTYX/27CS/CaXh0i0edISAHuAee/iW QWOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=okYqtBt9EC//FTH9V69RNWQW+hGQzhlRWgcebxihYLQ=; b=RUZlhWdzSSnXxSqApRc5frjDvo1bYsSpHeZmez7cL9AkwDWggXzs/wLYfbfHBZfogt h7U6V6Ssh1q04Ju2brCV+VDgN6G46cB8fTqW5U3XEeu8vln4nPLO+8aZ5393haTTUh1+ vvHRYjTlephm5yba5gKP6WH2ktWejHI2oVbvbsnUA1nwuFmg2I7zDEo2RnK2QrOjjnwm XZzrElQEXmoW1Y4etwyZ//wThUCcvMsmIZGWFRwZsW+8UQEbmDOJXwRe3ABJhc9wh6Vx LCVP7LPet0dhSGOFqNcdjrTCioUM/fEnoUfKx6N/J3qB56PuSIDuShIgpKKmiGixLypv g6Rw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530f8EjCZv6+HNQXL7KJ9Yo8dUj+Y0t2khI2WhbUjdoe2MlVfmx6 VFS9M4GWqJTvz3hG6JnVprhddZT5Vh74W06q9C0PMd0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwZusx7J3xTomKOS3H0I7GwbbPyUYAD0aUwAnvcGh3U5GfHmybXFMRWiY8yCurO+AjzZy7prmvQbcPFfzGY2u8= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:824c:: with SMTP id n12mr21451430ioo.15.1590588757455; Wed, 27 May 2020 07:12:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <-auynbGgS6bfeQq-_RU-Hfxe-uu2dR50iJXHUUvXM0mu0IKvUmQILrX4SzJ9QEK4KyHS2OGscd00f61hdWCQM3CHdrxMBMhfA9okmIlgqC8=@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: <-auynbGgS6bfeQq-_RU-Hfxe-uu2dR50iJXHUUvXM0mu0IKvUmQILrX4SzJ9QEK4KyHS2OGscd00f61hdWCQM3CHdrxMBMhfA9okmIlgqC8=@protonmail.com> From: Erik Aronesty Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 10:12:26 -0400 Message-ID: To: ZmnSCPxj , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 27 May 2020 14:24:44 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] hashcash-newhash X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 14:12:39 -0000 > What you are focusing on is only this: > > * Proof-of-work. Bitcoin's primary value proposition is that it's the most resistant to change: All other coins are these malleable things centrally controlled and easily moved about by politics and nonsense. So discussions of POW changes... open up this can of worms (myself being one of them). - should also discuss "proof-of-burn", where a burn is performed as a similar investment-over-time with true loss/risk. - should discuss moving to sha3 (or something like it) for everything, not just POW > However, do note that I doubt that changing the proof-of-work function (and *only* the proof-of-work function) is in any way a high priority. Yeah, a hard fork like this would be a massive undertaking, with a zillion "improvements" argued about for years and the final version some minimal thing that just changes the hash algo and invalidates legacy stuff (since back compat is not a concern).