From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A0AFA48 for ; Thu, 4 May 2017 19:28:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-qk0-f182.google.com (mail-qk0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C06FA193 for ; Thu, 4 May 2017 19:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk0-f182.google.com with SMTP id q1so19598087qkd.2 for ; Thu, 04 May 2017 12:28:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=fjMnjH8nbXQSVUlRDLiesxx2h1YHOb8lVWoNkQ7On0A=; b=PIulILClnH07JtJ9Sx80sMDbNjDNtjfKYDE2U3WDuseiOTDh1y2/kkAuF0ipKyiJu/ dW9NgEW2rfPsrOGVkCNfuIOpDPNrfHR04YS3pmWSWPuJe6Ca87NknqLLkRAPn0gZGCBE /es7Oo7pYc2F6Ly1GGg5B+t7aUTsbUFtJoJisdnmITy1aWlpU5nKM6FCG6VM4KZ7vtUF ftV2tQxqw9jhw/FgN2TwKXRkKXfFlWFHXm+ejl6Ay/TFUOn152E5fAkuCuSzNIAbw4ZS M3XgFWFONdXbkxhAyUR08+Fc3rkZPFcNByVldvG2waRisPPf2LcbGrfB7SkFPSQ6KYRR NM9w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=fjMnjH8nbXQSVUlRDLiesxx2h1YHOb8lVWoNkQ7On0A=; b=QRzBuQ59rR86IIS/aZ3x022mKrDzWdH34f7VG6BLxA4MeVAEXvnyLqYcO1s+w/YwsH 9DHR4dhRh5qZvMhuRAm2TI84H/0xEj4cwWoOnztmIa43CxJwmWzSuMVbNgAJMEKWjRBb icm480+F62sWasyz6Q5STz6vJJeVuQtdZOwzTUuJorOEcCyrY7M57eC9YPB5rek/EniY s7KrYGzelzb0L8Z6b2LnesxtVCP0ZILIMrjYHhpzV1xM/1/ytCqixDv5OUZONxNQqOFW /xj0HlN2EOxOY/7v68kJMLD36os4QswASqejebA8nsS2oIFPVwLfXA8ULp8D9Oxm/XB8 YFxg== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/6tpEDB1Boe/TuONQx7O4EiVy5WZHbMY95FOsdi5odQFpo3z/u7 cW4fcOWL0dQPINsu+ifyFReQ9MapbA== X-Received: by 10.55.68.84 with SMTP id r81mr9149921qka.250.1493926091420; Thu, 04 May 2017 12:28:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: earonesty@gmail.com Received: by 10.200.39.43 with HTTP; Thu, 4 May 2017 12:28:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9335E0E0-F9D6-41AD-9FF9-5CDF2B1AF1F7@gmail.com> References: <201705032321.14356.luke@dashjr.org> <9335E0E0-F9D6-41AD-9FF9-5CDF2B1AF1F7@gmail.com> From: Erik Aronesty Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 15:28:10 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hU3G-A2Q4-wAAOS0yHPtjkxd3zw Message-ID: To: Eric Lombrozo Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1148818cfffc1f054eb7c563 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 05 May 2017 10:59:11 +0000 Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Full node "tip" function X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 May 2017 19:28:14 -0000 --001a1148818cfffc1f054eb7c563 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > This is actually LN=E2=80=99s killer use case - not buying coffees ;) > Yes, micro-payments for online network services is precisely what LN is best at. Establishing a channel with each peer is too expensive. But using LN to micro-pay for high-quality peer services seems like it would aggregate very well. It would be great if this protocol was in-place and ready to go in or around the same time LN is ready. It would incentivize full nodes even further than LN does, and allow the network to be strongly DDOS resistant. --001a1148818cfffc1f054eb7c563 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is actually LN=E2=80=99s killer use case - = not buying coffees ;)

Yes, micro-paymen= ts for online network services is precisely what LN is best at.=C2=A0=C2=A0=

Establishing a channel with each peer is too expensive.=C2=A0=C2= =A0 But using LN to micro-pay for high-quality peer services seems like it = would aggregate very well.=C2=A0=C2=A0

It would be great if this pr= otocol was in-place and ready to go in or around the same time LN is ready.= =C2=A0=C2=A0 It would incentivize full nodes even further than LN does, and= allow the network to be strongly DDOS resistant.

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