From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UOpyz-0006FL-Kq for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:50:09 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.128.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.128.179; envelope-from=aritter@gmail.com; helo=mail-ve0-f179.google.com; Received: from mail-ve0-f179.google.com ([209.85.128.179]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1UOpyx-0000hH-2r for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:50:09 +0000 Received: by mail-ve0-f179.google.com with SMTP id cz11so4645528veb.38 for ; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 06:50:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.248.11 with SMTP id me11mr13043921vcb.26.1365342601367; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 06:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.92.138 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 06:50:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 08:50:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Ritter To: Mike Hearn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (aritter[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1UOpyx-0000hH-2r Cc: Bitcoin Development Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Integration testing for BitCoin X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:50:09 -0000 Hey guys, it sounds great. I read through the bitcoinj documentation and started reading the code. A few years ago it wasn't a full client, but now that I see that it's almost there, it looks much more interesting :-) Testing the reorg looks critical. Thanks for the help everyone, Adam On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Mike Hearn wrote: > In bitcoinj we desperately need integration tests to exercise the wallet > code, and I think if it was done well the tests would be applicable to > bitcoind as well. There have been a series of bugs in bitcoinj that boiled > down to "the unit tests were not realistic enough", either because they > stopped simulating too early or they weren't combining multiple different > things together in the same ways as happens on the real network. Sometimes > timing was an issue too. > > Examples of what I mean - ensure that re-orgs are handled correctly and > update the wallet properly in every case, etc. > > Something else that would be really useful, a standalone tool that > stress-tests the system. If we had a tool that randomly generated chains of > transactions we might have caught the bdb lock limit bug earlier. You could > write such a tool using bitcoinj easily, or the raw transaction APIs on > bitcoind. > > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Adam Ritter wrote: >> >> Thanks guys, it sounds great. >> Testing the JSON-RPC is/was not the main goal, just an interface for >> testing. >> I didn't know that the bitcoinj implementation is getting close to a >> full implementation..it sounds interesting, as it's much easier to >> understand and work with. I'll look at the test cases. >> >> Thanks very much, >> Adam >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Gregory Maxwell >> wrote: >> > On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Adam Ritter wrote: >> >> Hey guys, >> >> >> >> I just bought some BitCoins after being lazy to do it for the last few >> >> years, but also looked at the client code and the messages that are >> >> going on this mailing list. >> >> I saw that there are quite some unit tests, but I didn't find >> >> integration test for BitCoin, and I believe that it's quite important >> >> for the future of BitCoin (making the current code more stable, >> >> testing attack scenarios, refactoring and extending code). >> > [...] >> >> Tests that simulate multiple bitcoin users and can verify that the >> >> whole network of bitcoin clients work together >> >> to achieve the goals of Bitcoin. Also maybe [System >> >> testing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_testing) >> >> would be a better name for the tests, but I'm not sure. >> > >> > I prefer to call them system tests. >> > >> > We use a system called blocktester that Matt Corallo wrote, >> > >> > https://code.google.com/r/bluemattme-bitcoinj/source/browse/core/src/test/java/com/google/bitcoin/core/FullBlockTestGenerator.java?name=fullverif&r=874c5904b12d1fcec5b556429cf208f63cd4e1bc >> > >> > It's based on BitcoinJ and works by simulating a peer against a >> > slightly instrumented copy of Bitcoin(d/-qt) (modified to avoid >> > computationally expensive mining). The tests simulates many >> > complicated network scenarios and tests the boundaries of many >> > (hopefully all) the particular rules of the blockchain validation >> > protocol. We can use these tests to compare different versions of the >> > reference software to each other and to bitcoinj (or other full node >> > implementations) as well as comparing them to our abstract >> > understanding of what we believe the rules of the protocol to be. >> > >> > These tests are run as part of the automated tests on every proposed >> > patch to the reference software. Via a robot called pulltester which >> > comments on github requests and produces logs like this: >> > >> > http://jenkins.bluematt.me/pull-tester/92a129980fb9b506da6c7f876aa8adb405c88e17/. >> > Pulltester also performs automatic code coverage measurements. >> > >> > Additionally, we run a public secondary test bitcoin network called >> > 'testnet', which can be accessed by anyone by starting the reference >> > software with testnet=1. Testnet operates the same as the production >> > network except it allows mining low difficulty blocks to prevent it >> > going for long times without blocks, and some of the protective >> > relaying rules against "non standard" transaction types are disabled. >> > >> > Most of this testing work has been centered around validating the >> > blockchain behavior because thats what has serious systemic risk. >> > Measuring the json rpc behavior is strictly less interesting, though >> > interesting too. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. >> Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire >> the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. 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