From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 464CE919 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:52:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-qk0-f177.google.com (mail-qk0-f177.google.com [209.85.220.177]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 99A09146 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk0-f177.google.com with SMTP id z190so27681844qkc.0 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 13:52:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=3aEtvbU0slo5ImEiL2BCYv5e7Gmcwps4we4mcaUY76o=; b=Q8HpxJtS10wiyp5OT+Oj8YHdo7ycQbMTqhJOcnRryB9BakOPbWR79cLY7frF4pB1AQ 4Mui6lcYZnjvdHwEtpZVb31MQA51+i62y8jk40+LBtrpj3a/xkOdJzhVspozikLLjq24 ogX/c5tpT1UF0udf76oytvO2914mUPe8ZnUuZ8zcMmA6D2xBMwRshxzZjeV0fRALs1Sh ThjwNt2QmqrAsZtbNpFd+tNlDE9qrnx1HQx21z7fHtPQBTiphvvGNDpqFZUQxplIYpZo FUhyhjDZ5JHiIRd9NJoykhYuhW8LyNcfioaeB52LE8ELn1KaCnyTq0MFC2+uRAUMGs04 LdcQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=3aEtvbU0slo5ImEiL2BCYv5e7Gmcwps4we4mcaUY76o=; b=OXVcjXmynCdv/Wubse/I5DutJNWGDQ8XHSkvikrOHx8FsWz2wGdJPiD0fX/9AuvYI5 DSzQz8/AzBX+b5A3V9HOkvIQDezjwZmb7jw7x0bvb5JxGcEwScqZSI0kbdgv3Tl7zRUP Uh31q6VfAJvW+rnhlH9EH0Qi3lF51HBQukYsDPH7l+W8xSPD+au1muGLR8KbBVm0Ddmk jw8A6EsqbpQJK+bA/JCJ9DfpsaO83kw0B/kAenBmeHlYmlZfmlQLO0pKxJBbxsV/2V5b 0tZ49iU+LI2djvNXDbhIDQZcQWFOmpPtXxcL1ozQ60K2XM7zugD+wI0+wAvCeRBoCYWM zM6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwO05GUZBOwXdaufat0DDHkGwdL3TmXo2pKDGw3fN9JPNEW1rHr2drPSLqKAdzdPSyIsWffymZ0F6tUL6w== X-Received: by 10.55.111.135 with SMTP id k129mr6225754qkc.51.1472071947739; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 13:52:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.46.221 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Aug 2016 13:51:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Sergio Demian Lerner Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 17:51:47 -0300 Message-ID: To: bitcoin-dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c05dcec8780b6053ad7751e X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: [bitcoin-dev] Attack by modifying non-segwit transactions after segwit is accepted ? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:52:29 -0000 --94eb2c05dcec8780b6053ad7751e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 In a previous thread ("New BIP: Dealing with OP_IF and OP_NOTIF malleability in P2WSH") it was briefly discussed what happens if someone modifies segwit data during transmission. I think the discussion should continue. What worries me is what happens with non-segwit transactions after segwit is activated. I've followed the code from transaction arrival to transaction relay and it seems that a malicious node could receive a non-segwit tx, and re-format it into a segwit tx having as high as 400 Kbytes of segwit witness program data, and then relay it. Both transaction would have the same hash. The MAX_SCRIPT_ELEMENT_SIZE limit is only enforced on segwit execution, not in old non-segwit execution, so witness program stack elements could be as large as 400 Kbytes (MAX_STANDARD_TX_WEIGHT prevents increasing more). Such large modified transaction will probably not be properly relayed by the network due too low fee/byte, so the honest miner will probably win and forward the original transaction through the network. But if the attacker has better connectivity with the network and he modifies the original transaction adding segwit witness program data only up to the point where the transaction is relayed but miners are discouraged to include it in blocks due to low fees/byte, then the attacker has successfully prevented a transaction from being mined (or at least it will take much more). Also an attacker can encode arbitrary data (such as virus signatures or illegal content) into passing non-segwit transactions. One solution would be to increase the transaction version to 3 for segwit transactions, so a non-segwit transaction cannot be converted into a segwit transaction without changing the transaction hash. But this seems not to be a good solution, because it does not solve all the problems. Transactions having a mixture of segwit and non-segwit inputs could suffer the same attack (even if they are version 3). I proposed that a rule is added to IsStandardTX() that prevents witness programs of having a stack elements of length greater than MAX_SCRIPT_ELEMENT_SIZE. (currently this is not a rule) That's a simple check that prevents most of the problems. A long term solution would be to add the maximum size of the witness stack in bytes (maxWitnessSize) as a field for each input, or as a field of the whole transaction. Regards --94eb2c05dcec8780b6053ad7751e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a previous thread ("New BIP: D= ealing with OP_IF and OP_NOTIF malleability in P2WSH") it was briefly = discussed what happens if someone modifies segwit data during transmission.= I think the discussion should continue.

What worries me is wh= at happens with non-segwit transactions after segwit is activated. I've= followed the code from transaction arrival to transaction relay and it see= ms that a malicious node could receive a non-segwit tx, and re-format it in= to a segwit tx having as high as 400 Kbytes of segwit witness program data,= and then relay it. Both transaction would have the same hash.

The M= AX_SCRIPT_ELEMENT_SIZE limit is only enforced on segwit execution, not in o= ld non-segwit execution, so witness program stack elements could be as larg= e as 400 Kbytes (MAX_STANDARD_TX_WEIGHT prevents increasing more).
Such = large modified transaction will probably not be properly relayed by the net= work due too low fee/byte, so the honest miner will probably win and forwar= d the original transaction through the network.
But if the attacker has= better connectivity with the network and he modifies the original transact= ion adding segwit witness program data only up to the point where the trans= action is relayed but miners are discouraged to include it in blocks due to= low fees/byte, then the attacker has successfully prevented a transaction = from being mined (or at least it will take much more).

Also an attacker can encode arbitrary data (such as virus signatures or = illegal content) into passing non-segwit transactions.

O= ne solution would be to increase the transaction version to 3 for segwit tr= ansactions, so a non-segwit transaction cannot be converted into a segwit t= ransaction without changing the transaction hash. But this seems not to be = a good solution, because it does not solve all the problems. Transactions h= aving a mixture of segwit and non-segwit inputs could suffer the same attac= k (even if they are version 3).

I proposed that a = rule is added to IsStandardTX() that prevents witness programs of having a = stack elements of length greater than MAX_SCRIPT_ELEMENT_SIZE. (currently t= his is not a rule)

That's a simple check that prevent= s most of the problems.

A long term solution would be to add the max= imum size of the witness stack in bytes (maxWitnessSize) as a field for eac= h input, or as a field of the whole transaction.

Regards
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