From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10BE171E for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 22:18:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-io0-f177.google.com (mail-io0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6355A123 for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 22:18:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-f177.google.com with SMTP id i75so28111438ioa.3 for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 15:18:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=rWBWBpndlw+/ZXyyfkCrsyvz0RH0UWTma/wMnpgziC0=; b=cq+HQS1ARpRUT6Nod93UoEg6jK4C4v8jAaxD0FkIaPKhkeq+9ji1rlKVB/4bykGJJT PakB/mt7al1WyBeRqHKWDjHx4TFVjV0i8lv0RRYEopMFYofUCJlJXVLWQAJX2VegiMuf qoqaP+mVuQYGndZrcZhamZHAdLetiXO/PzVTboIgbXBif7+wymUfhNLRqsGw/e+eBjx8 wOaE0Ah6oa9pjCM0YQRijRVMVuUUrtaYDhb+q3UgeJiEd8+pAEWKHZ0imQS9gFZ/Xl/E qisWmfMyPGlnuf7IC1sRR1MonMamnFq+NsgU/jRi0VKtcW/v8inEBXbJwjmNvtTHHLEq mjBg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=rWBWBpndlw+/ZXyyfkCrsyvz0RH0UWTma/wMnpgziC0=; b=IS2ji2p80s22VQDnBdHYOxnk8SVOdCHWhV67a3gWrysvcL5G3JuLePmVdfBp1OKgPq lyLHdN9Wo/L1RQyMdWQydISCrSJtI7CGeNargCn8OdusWhdVUS9ISJajHSMrYtNE1JVX 0X5DszLsAJv/Ne6ZcQFiIo5L10PTxALKD72QwisxM8LEECBgUDeBtQLIwZg0ws/bgykv CaCihumJAsho12FficmmGZ6wYwSZNUgqI221n41pOG8I/0R3+oknGKRrG7DRiEuQ+Vzc f8QFppzZuwm9BAwyr14ZFqSuDnYEvNCKR4SUktKfBivzQU1t/sdW/Peasng7eGghMdMj 6R6g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FUb6Rc+1L/Z9bPUHOd/wx6Xx37Bgwll/fM2b2yQFC85njsYhBKqs6HrGrt7V0Qm6030dx27g3+X35fthA== X-Received: by 10.107.30.71 with SMTP id e68mr441415ioe.145.1462918701696; Tue, 10 May 2016 15:18:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.142.69 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2016 15:17:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160510185728.GA1149@fedora-21-dvm> References: <20160510185728.GA1149@fedora-21-dvm> From: Sergio Demian Lerner Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 19:17:42 -0300 Message-ID: To: Peter Todd , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140d71e8ccf2f0532844df9 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Making AsicBoost irrelevant X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 22:18:23 -0000 --001a1140d71e8ccf2f0532844df9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > As part of the hard-fork proposed in the HK agreement(1) we'd like to make > the > patented AsicBoost optimisation useless, and hopefully make further similar > optimizations useless as well. > > > You say that you want to make patented optimization useless, but you point to a link that doesn't say anything about ASIC improvements or patents, which means that you have been planning to change the protocol rules with some miners (but not all the community). All changes to the protocol should be discussed in public here. If you want to make "further similar optimizations useless as well" then maybe you should propose a switch to EquiHash. > > 1) > https://medium.com/@bitcoinroundtable/bitcoin-roundtable-consensus-266d475a61ff > > 2) > http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-April/012596.html > > -- > https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > > --001a1140d71e8ccf2f0532844df9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
As part of the hard-fork= proposed in the HK agreement(1) we'd like to make the
patented AsicBoost optimisation useless, and hopefully make further similar=
optimizations useless as well.


You say that you want to make patented optimization u= seless, but you point to a link that doesn't say anything about ASIC im= provements or patents, which means that you have been planning to change th= e protocol rules with some miners (but not all the community).

All changes to the protocol should be discussed in public here. If yo= u want to make "further similar optimizations useless as well" th= en maybe you should propose a switch to EquiHash.

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1) https://medium.com= /@bitcoinroundtable/bitcoin-roundtable-consensus-266d475a61ff

2) http://lists.linuxfo= undation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-April/012596.html

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