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From: Chris Riley <criley@gmail.com>
To: Sergio Demian Lerner <sergio.d.lerner@gmail.com>,
	 Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Making AsicBoost irrelevant
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 18:27:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAL5BAw3iKPotP56mt5iyjLJmQrhfuq+y-PNOQH8v5sCWKtwemw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKzdR-rZD8tUMCw4dUEAiFN1QJde-V4tWDwTHFkT1wOqJ37PhQ@mail.gmail.com>

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The second like "2)" has a link to the paper:
http://www.math.rwth-aachen.de/~Timo.Hanke/AsicBoostWhitepaperrev5.pdf

which does discuss the fact that it is "patent-pending".   Likewise it
discusses ASIC improvements.  Avoiding patents that impact bitcoin and are
not freely licensed, is something that is worthwhile for discussion.


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> As part of the hard-fork proposed in the HK agreement(1) we'd like to
>> make the
>> patented AsicBoost optimisation useless, and hopefully make further
>> similar
>> optimizations useless as well.
>>
>>
>> You say that you want to make patented optimization useless, but you
> point to a link that doesn't say anything about ASIC improvements or
> patents, which means that you have been planning to change the protocol
> rules with some miners (but not all the community).
>

> All changes to the protocol should be discussed in public here. If you
> want to make "further similar optimizations useless as well" then maybe you
> should propose a switch to EquiHash.
>
>
>
>>
>> 1)
>> https://medium.com/@bitcoinroundtable/bitcoin-roundtable-consensus-266d475a61ff
>>
>> 2)
>> http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2016-April/012596.html
>>
>> --
>> https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-10 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-10 18:57 [bitcoin-dev] Making AsicBoost irrelevant Peter Todd
2016-05-10 20:27 ` Tier Nolan
2016-05-10 21:35   ` Matt Corallo
2016-05-10 21:43   ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2016-05-10 22:59     ` Matt Corallo
2016-05-11 12:20     ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2016-05-11 13:08       ` Marek Palatinus
2016-05-11 21:01         ` Matt Corallo
2016-05-11 22:16           ` Simon Liu
2016-05-11 22:50             ` Peter Todd
2016-05-11 14:28       ` Luke Dashjr
2016-05-11 16:24         ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-11 18:28           ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-11 22:49             ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-12  2:27     ` Tom Harding
2016-05-12  2:31       ` Allen Piscitello
2016-05-12  2:33       ` Peter Todd
2016-05-12  4:01         ` Tom Harding
2016-05-10 21:49 ` Marco Pontello
2016-05-10 22:17 ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2016-05-10 22:27   ` Chris Riley [this message]
2016-05-11  3:14 ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-11  9:21   ` Jannes Faber
2016-05-11 10:36     ` Henning Kopp
2016-05-11 10:47       ` Jannes Faber
2016-05-11 22:42         ` Timo Hanke
2016-05-11 22:58           ` Gregory Maxwell
2016-05-12  7:29             ` Tom
2016-05-12 11:05           ` Jorge Timón
2016-05-11 14:07   ` Jorge Timón
2016-05-11 14:18     ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2016-05-11 14:30       ` Jannes Faber
2016-05-11 20:50   ` Matt Corallo
2016-05-11 22:00     ` James Hilliard
2016-05-11 23:01   ` Peter Todd
2016-05-12  0:02     ` Gregory Maxwell
2016-05-12  1:23       ` Russell O'Connor
2016-05-12  1:58         ` Peter Todd
2016-05-12  1:58         ` Matt Corallo

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