From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B2348FAD for ; Tue, 8 Sep 2015 21:05:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75C501CD for ; Tue, 8 Sep 2015 21:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wicgb1 with SMTP id gb1so93232259wic.1 for ; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 14:05:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=3HGxzxEccCHit4BmXROCybDUWBP4jRKMj2vs6N0bJO4=; b=T1oQLBhZ2qCCKx+T6gJ9FTf8Jo1cXOJnsGnog7OCScBvmEFE4O/giZvH3UUgobvpJe 96531iEF+w2Qc0XvfOrpF6DU7C/InoOddS3Rk28/Tc2nH20pYgyVcT8WuefW1CKIZcm9 FUDD47/ocJ7nh+nAio1JZVt8f0OSm5WCeC12aMXGFcj6HXFlAZYtGf8ENNpip25/B2B2 7jvR8d9is+KR6V0f6PpaFudRztL7ZAZggnfKIk30x9VCKHpU7earJz2aPvebUZOwN8UQ QdZrzACfti2OJ4Q7bShtr6WW58gL3RStzNJuxWJ4oppD4l5m9AIBIczJ+9d0KJgEnZ1q WiRA== X-Received: by 10.180.88.4 with SMTP id bc4mr27814192wib.68.1441746327095; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 14:05:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.6.76 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Sep 2015 14:05:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ken Shirriff Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 14:05:07 -0700 Message-ID: To: Danny Thorpe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428ee4aecdb3051f42b95e X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 21:05:29 -0000 --f46d04428ee4aecdb3051f42b95e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Danny Thorpe wrote= : > What of this prior effort, proposing B-with-horizontal-bar (=C9=83)? > http://bitcoinsymbol.org/ > > They argue that B-with-2-vertical-bars is easily confused with the Thai > Bhat currency symbol, which is a B with a single vertical bar. > Actually that page argues that using the Thai Bhat currency symbol *for* Bitcoin causes confusion. From the page you linked to: The Thai Baht (=E0=B8=BF ) is some= times used to represent Bitcoin, but this certainly raises a problem of differenciation between the Thai Baht and Bitcoin. Their main motivation for using the horizontal-bar =C9=83 (which they admit= is a hack) is they consider adding a character to Unicode to be a "really long and complicated process". My view is that adding the bitcoin sign to Unicode avoids confusion with the Thai Baht, avoids hacks such as =C9=83, a= nd lets everyone use the standard symbol. Hopefully it won't be a really long and complicated process... Ken > I'm not terribly fond of the B-with-horizontal-bar as a symbol, but it > does have the advantage that it is already in the Unicode glyph set, > already available on most Unicode enabled devices. > > -Danny > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev < > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > >> Use of the bitcoin symbol in text is inconvenient, because the bitcoin >> symbol isn't in the Unicode standard. To fix this, I've written a propos= al >> to have the common B-with-vertical-bars bitcoin symbol added to Unicode. >> I've successfully proposed a new character for Unicode before, so I'm >> familiar with the process and think this has a good chance of succeeding= . >> The proposal is at http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf >> >> I received a suggestion to run this proposal by the bitcoin-dev group, s= o >> I hope this email is appropriate here. Endorsement by Bitcoin developers >> will help the Unicode Committee realize the importance of adding this >> symbol, so please let me know if you support this proposal. >> >> Thanks, >> Ken >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bitcoin-dev mailing list >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >> >> > --f46d04428ee4aecdb3051f42b95e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Danny Thorpe <danny.thorpe@gmail.= com> wrote:
What of this= prior effort, proposing B-with-horizontal-bar (=C9=83)? http://bitcoinsymbol.org/
They argue that B-with-2-vertical-bars is easily confused with = the Thai Bhat currency symbol, which is a B with a single vertical bar.=C2= =A0

Actually that page argues t= hat using the Thai Bhat currency symbol for Bitcoin causes confusion= . From the page you linked to:

The Thai Baht (=E0=B8=BF= ) is sometimes used to represent Bitcoin, but this certainly raises a probl= em of differenciation between the Thai Baht and Bitcoin.
=C2=A0
Their main motivation for using the horizontal-bar= =C2=A0=C9=83 (which they admit is a hack) is they consider adding a charact= er to Unicode to be a=C2=A0"really long and complicated process".= My view is that adding the bitcoin sign to Unicode avoids confusion with t= he Thai Baht, avoids hacks such as=C2=A0=C9=83, and lets everyone use the s= tandard symbol. Hopefully it won't be a really long and complicated pro= cess...

Ken

=

I'm not terribly fond of the B-wit= h-horizontal-bar as a symbol, but it does have the advantage that it is alr= eady in the Unicode glyph set, already available on most Unicode enabled de= vices.

-Danny

On Sat, Sep 5, 2015= at 7:11 AM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev= @lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
Use of the bitco= in symbol in text is inconvenient, because the bitcoin symbol isn't in = the Unicode standard. To fix this, I've written a proposal to have the = common B-with-vertical-bars bitcoin symbol added to Unicode. I've succe= ssfully proposed a new character for Unicode before, so I'm familiar wi= th the process and think this has a good chance of succeeding. The proposal= is at=C2=A0http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf

I received a suggestion to run this proposal by the bitcoin-d= ev group, so I hope this email is appropriate here. Endorsement by Bitcoin = developers will help the Unicode Committee realize the importance of adding= this symbol, so please let me know if you support this proposal.

Thanks,
Ken



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