From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WlSxx-0004HH-1m for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 17 May 2014 00:59:09 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.128.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.128.181; envelope-from=alexy.kot.all@gmail.com; helo=mail-ve0-f181.google.com; Received: from mail-ve0-f181.google.com ([209.85.128.181]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WlSxv-0008Lc-65 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sat, 17 May 2014 00:59:09 +0000 Received: by mail-ve0-f181.google.com with SMTP id pa12so4020282veb.12 for ; Fri, 16 May 2014 17:59:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.52.250.4 with SMTP id yy4mr2865638vdc.56.1400288341485; Fri, 16 May 2014 17:59:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: alexy.kot.all@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.211.135 with HTTP; Fri, 16 May 2014 17:58:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <09E70F88-DA1C-4E3F-9342-547FB8794EAB@heliacal.net> From: Alex Kotenko Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 01:58:20 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wssN4Y37exZalvpTyu6X5DTkOeo Message-ID: To: Jeff Garzik Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1136794c2d6dff04f98e09a7 X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. 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How do I host a testnet seed myself? Best regards, Alex Kotenko 2014-05-16 23:02 GMT+01:00 Jeff Garzik : > There are only two testnet seeds listed in bitcoind, and one of them > returns SERVFAIL (testnet-seed.bitcoin.petertodd.org) and the other > just returns one A record (testnet-seed.bluematt.me). No idea what > seeds bitcoinj uses. > > If you are going to depend on testnet, especially for an important > demo... contribute to the infrastructure! This stuff doesn't just fix > itself for free. > > > > > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Alex Kotenko wrote: > > Hi guys > > > > > > Just wanted to let you know that Andreas' testnet Bitcoin Wallet doesn't > > work because of fail in the peer discovery, and this caused us problems > as > > we cannot properly demonstrate my XBTerminal POS on the Bitcoin > Conference. > > > > Right now I'm booting up an own full node that I will set as trusted > peer in > > the Wallet settings, hopefully this will work. However this DNS discovery > > problem is really a problem, even for testnet. Btw, I had problems > firing up > > the full bitcoind node also, of the same reason - discovery failed. I > had to > > ask Andreas to paste me his node list to manually seed the nodelist. > > > > So I've set up and will run a well connected testnet node, as we need it > for > > the XBTerminal. > > Please let me know if I can somehow help to fix the DNS discovery issue > > also. > > > > > > Best regards, > > Alex Kotenko > > > > > > 2014-05-16 17:46 GMT+01:00 Laszlo Hanyecz : > > > >> It looks like it might be firewalled, probably just need to fix the ACL > in > >> EC2. > >> > >> -Laszlo > >> > >> On May 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Andreas Schildbach > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Apparently British Telecom also cannot speak to Peter Todd's server. > >> > > >> > That another very large ISP in Europe. > >> > > >> > > >> > On 05/15/2014 01:50 PM, Andreas Schildbach wrote: > >> >> I'm bringing this issue up again. The current Bitcoin DNS seed > >> >> infrastructure is unstable. I assume this is because of we're using a > >> >> custom DNS implementation which is not 100% compatible. There have > been > >> >> bugs in the past, like a case sensitive match for the domain name. > >> >> > >> >> Current state (seeds taken from bitcoinj): > >> >> > >> >> mainnet: > >> >> > >> >> seed.bitcoin.sipa.be OK > >> >> dnsseed.bluematt.me OK > >> >> dnsseed.bitcoin.dashjr.org SERVFAIL, tried multiple ISPs > >> >> seed.bitcoinstats.com OK > >> >> > >> >> testnet: > >> >> > >> >> testnet-seed.bitcoin.petertodd.org SERVFAIL, just from Telefonica > >> >> testnet-seed.bluematt.me OK (but only returns one node) > >> >> > >> >> Note: Telefonica is one of Europe's largest ISPs. > >> >> > >> >> I would try to improve DNS myself, but I'm not capable of writing C. > My > >> >> "fix" would be to reimplement everything in Java -- I doubt you guys > >> >> would be happy with that. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For > FREE > >> >> Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. > >> >> Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform > >> >> available > >> >> Simple to use. 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Ok, what do I need to do? How do I host a test= net seed myself?=C2=A0

Best regards,=C2=A0
Alex Kotenko


2014-05-16 23:02 GMT+01:00 Jeff Garzik <= span dir=3D"ltr"><jgarzik@bitpay.com>:
There are only two testnet seeds listed in bitcoind, and one of them
returns SERVFAIL (testnet-seed.bitcoin.petertodd.org) and the other
just returns one A record (testnet-seed.bluematt.me). =C2=A0No idea what
seeds bitcoinj uses.

If you are going to depend on testnet, especially for an important
demo... contribute to the infrastructure! =C2=A0This stuff doesn't just= fix
itself for free.




On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Alex Kotenko <alexykot@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys
>
>
> Just wanted to let you know that Andreas' testnet Bitcoin Wallet d= oesn't
> work because of fail in the peer discovery, and this caused us problem= s as
> we cannot properly demonstrate my XBTerminal POS on the Bitcoin Confer= ence.
>
> Right now I'm booting up an own full node that I will set as trust= ed peer in
> the Wallet settings, hopefully this will work. However this DNS discov= ery
> problem is really a problem, even for testnet. Btw, I had problems fir= ing up
> the full bitcoind node also, of the same reason - discovery failed. I = had to
> ask Andreas to paste me his node list to manually seed the nodelist. >
> So I've set up and will run a well connected testnet node, as we n= eed it for
> the XBTerminal.
> Please let me know if I can somehow help to fix the DNS discovery issu= e
> also.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Alex Kotenko
>
>
> 2014-05-16 17:46 GMT+01:00 Laszlo Hanyecz <laszlo@heliacal.net>:
>
>> It looks like it might be firewalled, probably just need to fix th= e ACL in
>> EC2.
>>
>> -Laszlo
>>
>> On May 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Andreas Schildbach <andreas@schildbach.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Apparently British Telecom also cannot speak to Peter Todd= 9;s server.
>> >
>> > That another very large ISP in Europe.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 05/15/2014 01:50 PM, Andreas Schildbach wrote:
>> >> I'm bringing this issue up again. The current Bitcoin= DNS seed
>> >> infrastructure is unstable. I assume this is because of w= e're using a
>> >> custom DNS implementation which is not 100% compatible. T= here have been
>> >> bugs in the past, like a case sensitive match for the dom= ain name.
>> >>
>> >> Current state (seeds taken from bitcoinj):
>> >>
>> >> mainnet:
>> >>
>> >> seed.bitcoin.sipa.be =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 OK
>> >> = dnsseed.bluematt.me =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0OK
>> >> dnsseed.bitcoin.dashjr.org =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 SE= RVFAIL, tried multiple ISPs
>> >> seed.bitcoinstats.com =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0OK
>> >>
>> >> testnet:
>> >>
>> >> testnet-seed.bitcoin.petertodd.org =C2=A0 SERVFAIL, just= from Telefonica
>> >> testnet-seed.bluematt.me =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= OK (but only returns one node)
>> >>
>> >> Note: Telefonica is one of Europe's largest ISPs.
>> >>
>> >> I would try to improve DNS myself, but I'm not capabl= e of writing C. My
>> >> "fix" would be to reimplement everything in Jav= a -- I doubt you guys
>> >> would be happy with that.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------
>> >> "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser = Testing - For FREE
>> >> Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS = combos.
>> >> Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testi= ng platform
>> >> available
>> >> Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for fr= ee."
>> >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------= -----------------
>> > "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Test= ing - For FREE
>> > Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS comb= os.
>> > Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing p= latform
>> > available
>> > Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free.&= quot;
>> > h= ttp://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Bitcoin-development mailing list
>> > = Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listi= nfo/bitcoin-development
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------
>> "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing -= For FREE
>> Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. >> Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platfo= rm
>> available
>> Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free."=
>> http:/= /p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bitcoin-development mailing list
>> Bitco= in-development@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/b= itcoin-development
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= --------
> "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For= FREE
> Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos.
> Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform > available
> Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free."
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