From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Wn4Qu-0001AY-Iw for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 21 May 2014 11:11:40 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.220.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.169; envelope-from=alexy.kot.all@gmail.com; helo=mail-vc0-f169.google.com; Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1Wn4Qs-000247-HK for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 21 May 2014 11:11:40 +0000 Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id ij19so2310766vcb.28 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 04:11:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.52.13.41 with SMTP id e9mr7795203vdc.21.1400670692893; Wed, 21 May 2014 04:11:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: alexy.kot.all@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.211.135 with HTTP; Wed, 21 May 2014 04:10:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <09E70F88-DA1C-4E3F-9342-547FB8794EAB@heliacal.net> <779f3ed92d29cfd6922a92c5d60d3f9d@webmail.mckay.com> <0f40d061612966ff809fff04d3f698eb@webmail.mckay.com> From: Alex Kotenko Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 12:10:52 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: KH4y4c6cFK7XvbAeDXytdf8tHIo Message-ID: To: Andreas Schildbach Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf302efaf618e9f404f9e70fce X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. 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Both seeds are available on port 53 via BIND forwarding. Just also each DNS seed is available separately on it's own port. Best regards, Alex Kotenko 2014-05-21 12:03 GMT+01:00 Andreas Schildbach : > Great, thanks for this contribution! > > Do you plan to have your seeds reachable on port 53 eventually? > Currently bitcoinj cannot deal with nonstandard ports I think. > > > On 05/21/2014 11:23 AM, Alex Kotenko wrote: > > okay, I've set it up with bind forwarding requests to two dnsseeds > > running on separate ports. Though I see a problem with testnet DNS seed > > itself. It runs, but somehow it only returns one IP address. Exactly > > same DNS seeder looking for mainnet nodes is working fine. > > > > You can reach seeds through > > mainnet seed: > > dig @node.alexykot.me bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me > > A > > or directly > > dig -p 8353 @node.alexykot.me > > bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me A > > > > testnet seed > > dig @node.alexykot.me testnet-seed.alexykot.me > > A > > or directly > > dig -p 18353 @node.alexykot.me > > testnet-seed.alexykot.me A > > > > So what can be the problem with testnet DNS seeder? > > > > > > Best regards, > > Alex Kotenko > > > > > > 2014-05-20 1:50 GMT+01:00 Robert McKay > >: > > > > On Tue, 20 May 2014 01:44:29 +0100, Robert McKay wrote: > > > On Mon, 19 May 2014 19:49:52 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > >> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Robert McKay > > > > >> wrote: > > >>> It should be possible to configure bind as a DNS forwarder.. this > > >>> can > > >>> be done in a zone context.. then you can forward the different > > >>> zones > > >>> to > > >>> different dnsseed daemons running on different non-public IPs or > > >>> two > > >>> different ports on the same IP (or on one single non-public IP > > >>> since > > >>> there's really no reason to expose the dnsseed directly daemon at > > >>> all). > > >> > > >> Quite the opposite. dnsseed data rotates through a lot of > addresses > > >> if available. Using the bind/zone-xfer system would result in > fewer > > >> total addresses going through to the clients, thanks to the > addition > > >> of caching levels that the bind/zone-xfer system brings. > > >> > > >> That said, if the choice is between no-service and bind, bind it > is > > >> ;p > > > > > > Setting it up as a zone forwarder causes each request to go through > > > to > > > the dnsseed backend for each request. > > > > This stackoverflow describes a similar situation; > > > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15338232/how-to-forward-a-subzone > > > > you can additionally specify the port to forward too; > > > > http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch7/queries.html#forwarders > > > > it should be possible to forward to different ports on 127.0.0.1 for > > each dnsseed instance. > > > > Rob > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For > FREE > > Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. > > Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform > > available > > Simple to use. 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Misunderstanding. Both seeds are available on = port 53 via BIND forwarding.
Just also each DNS seed is available separately on it's own port.
=


Best regards,=C2=A0
Alex Kotenko


2014-05-21 12:03 GMT+01:00 Andreas Schil= dbach <andreas@schildbach.de>:
Great, thanks for this contribution!

Do you plan to have your seeds reachable on port 53 eventually?
Currently bitcoinj cannot deal with nonstandard ports I think.


On 05/21/2014 11:23 AM, Alex Kotenko wrote:
> okay, I've set it up with bind forwarding requests to two dnsseeds=
> running on separate ports. Though I see a problem with testnet DNS see= d
> itself. It runs, but somehow it only returns one IP address. Exactly > same DNS seeder looking for mainnet nodes is working fine.
>
> You can reach seeds through
> mainnet seed:
> dig @node.= alexykot.me <h= ttp://node.alexykot.me> bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me
> <http= ://bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me> A
> or directly
> dig -p 8353 @nod= e.alexykot.me <http://node.alexykot.me>
> bitcoin-= seed.alexykot.me <http://bitcoin-seed.alexykot.me> A
>
> testnet seed
> dig @node.alexyk= ot.me <http://= node.alexykot.me> testnet-seed.alexykot.me
> <http= ://testnet-seed.alexykot.me> A
> or directly
> dig -p 18353 @no= de.alexykot.me <http://node.alexykot.me>
> testnet-= seed.alexykot.me <http://testnet-seed.alexykot.me> A
>
> So what can be the problem with testnet DNS seeder?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Alex Kotenko
>
>
> 2014-05-20 1:50 GMT+01:00 Robert McKay <robert@mckay.com
> <mailto:robert@mckay.com<= /a>>>:
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Tue, 20 May 2014 01:44:29 +0100, Robert McKay wrote:<= br> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > On Mon, 19 May 2014 19:49:52 -0400, Jeff Garzik wro= te:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Robert McKay &= lt;robert@mckay.com
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <mailto:rob= ert@mckay.com>>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> wrote:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>> It should be possible to configure bind as = a DNS forwarder.. this
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>> can
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>> be done in a zone context.. then you can fo= rward the different
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>> zones
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>> to
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>> different dnsseed daemons running on differ= ent non-public IPs or
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>> two
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>> different ports on the same IP (or on one s= ingle non-public IP
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>> since
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>> there's really no reason to expose the = dnsseed directly daemon at
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>> all).
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> Quite the opposite. =C2=A0dnsseed data rotates = through a lot of addresses
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> if available. =C2=A0Using the bind/zone-xfer sy= stem would result in fewer
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> total addresses going through to the clients, t= hanks to the addition
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> of caching levels that the bind/zone-xfer syste= m brings.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> That said, if the choice is between no-service = and bind, bind it is
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >> ;p
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Setting it up as a zone forwarder causes each reque= st to go through
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > to
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > the dnsseed backend for each request.
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 This stackoverflow describes a similar situation;
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://stackoverflow.com/questio= ns/15338232/how-to-forward-a-subzone
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 you can additionally specify the port to forward too; >
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch7/queri= es.html#forwarders
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 it should be possible to forward to different ports on 1= 27.0.0.1 for
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 each dnsseed instance.
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rob
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------
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> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS= combos.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium test= ing platform
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 available
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for f= ree."
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>
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>
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