From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 022C110A5 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:53:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mo.garage.hdemail.jp (mo.garage.hdemail.jp [46.51.242.127]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BEDC47C for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ip-10-217-1-36.ap-northeast-1.compute.internal (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mo.garage.hdemail.jp (hde-mf-postfix) with SMTP id 9B95D14C0B9 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 23:53:39 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from karljohan-alm@garage.co.jp) X-Received: from unknown (HELO mo.garage.hdemail.jp) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Mar 2018 23:53:39 +0900 X-Received: from mo.garage.hdemail.jp (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mo.garage.hdemail.jp (hde-ma-postfix) with ESMTP id 8945C4C072 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 23:53:39 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from karljohan-alm@garage.co.jp) Received: from gw31.oz.hdemail.jp (ip-10-126-11-99.ap-northeast-1.compute.internal [10.126.11.99]) by mo.garage.hdemail.jp (hde-mf-postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCA214C0B9 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 23:53:39 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from karljohan-alm@garage.co.jp) X-Received: from mail-qt0-f200.google.com (lb05.oz.hdemail.jp [54.238.57.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gw31.oz.hdemail.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C529148C137 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 23:53:39 +0900 (JST) X-Received: by mail-qt0-f200.google.com with SMTP id 41so14198141qtp.8 for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 06:53:39 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yKegZ6tv6c61PXbRGLcPzTJIv9EtMv+F/RP6uOZaWQg=; b=nANifAvX3pVvgpgklEaJCZ1QvT/GYAWcMP1G/QHiNM0AGPovA7F+n+BPKGZS/rZdmA uqwRGb6dgZ2/wc9Vr+PivBSUDqNVMN9GT5jsJIel7t/8qS7X0GQKqRgyv88AYHMRpL09 5+E75w3Bn4lCA5f699bbSlp59mWsNYvzctMI8AUmfdPo4DDX9IEJd3sjkZYMxXdVn8bz NFKdHDKy8+fYgE4mF+zujvJPAVv/FVEhrqeqmdsiKxh3vlghqOFD103S/S3Z174W5eiS Fa9rXUsj+VxMVEMmrKeZAbVfkLmZkntyvqmv2MS10T6gy506mpFowtws3I/x2xq02MSn xxbQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7FBJxxsIbwjEIOgDtE7gegZt6lvP1ni/SxVZsNhOcz0KKE9KyZp qvm8+FJqm7qqAoO2zHyt+voaB3018s9AkpHp1ntMHRmaSKap/74kflI1pxW/r6q+5wo+qAu/dUb 879PC5Zx9Ca/l3PVHr6KY2YNy0DCgyzJn9XBATWvMUP+hMBeGzQ8hUYUlxCcZiA9D06GmJ5llT0 m8iZRssSl8G/dxczxAx2FSNdofLFYAMMjQV+FqgXA4YGosSzZEuRgYWGrLy9RuC5sQX/UNNIqfu mZTRqdxYrqM5F7x0OKrlRLH2FC20YhtmSj2WPOBYcxwZQe9KnTG5Om1ZXtkonqf33uJosbma/RL +V3Hl5LQIRyOTG8OxUD51gkxFjE= X-Received: by 10.55.97.66 with SMTP id v63mr21380080qkb.266.1520261617605; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 06:53:37 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AG47ELvORoHB2r3MRGk8swgG0gdWmXWwt+ffnSkvDGEP1gBL8qshwcf5YUiErjlVgJ6kFI6+QAwxAC07PHOxvsHaV+M= X-Received: by 10.55.97.66 with SMTP id v63mr21380042qkb.266.1520261617314; Mon, 05 Mar 2018 06:53:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.12.176.3 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 06:53:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20180228223044.GA31415@erisian.com.au> From: =?UTF-8?B?44Ki44Or44Og44CA44Kr44O844Or44Oo44OP44Oz?= Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:53:16 +0000 Message-ID: To: Anthony Towns Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 14:54:10 +0000 Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Simple lock/unlock mechanism X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 14:53:42 -0000 On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 5:11 AM, =E3=82=A2=E3=83=AB=E3=83=A0=E3=80=80=E3=82= =AB=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=83=A8=E3=83=8F=E3=83=B3 wrote: > That kind of defeats the purpose. If you go through the trouble of > doing that, you can just do multisig and skip the freezing part > entirely. A robber would have to get you and the cosigner to sign in > both cases, and the CLTV could be overridden with graftroot. I think I'm confused on this. To use graftroot it has to be a pubkey, not a p2sh thing. -Kalle.