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From: "Undiscussed Horrific Abuse, One Victim of Many" <gmkarl@gmail.com>
To: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Why OpenTimestamps does not "linearize" its transactions
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 07:53:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALL-=e4=t7YMxDsBrDvR0Bkhagn+x2XnzZMYuoA4C=VXp=R2KA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALL-=e6ucj0RxM6=Lyrytb3MzQA2pOMwQqM_Gr9RDg3+5Lbudw@mail.gmail.com>

I was privately asked for more opinions. I am sharing them publicly below:

It's always been clear that OTS proves longness of duration but not
shortness. It doesn't demonstrate that an earlier work was not
published, because it hashes each document hash with private material
the author must separately publicize. Any unpublished private material
could be an earlier equivalent to a public proof.

the reason i call this 'designed to be broken' is that it lets people
rewrite history to their stories by republishing other people's
documents under different contexts.

I would not be surprised if OTS also fails to add tx history
containing its hashes to associated wallets, letting them be lost in
chain forks.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-14 11:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-01 20:04 [bitcoin-dev] [Pre-BIP] Fee Accounts Jeremy
2022-01-18 16:12 ` Billy Tetrud
2022-01-18 17:43   ` Jeremy
2022-01-19  2:37     ` Billy Tetrud
2022-01-19  2:51       ` Jeremy
2022-01-19  4:53         ` Billy Tetrud
2022-01-19  7:32           ` Jeremy
2022-01-19 16:51             ` Billy Tetrud
2022-01-19 20:08               ` Jeremy
2022-01-20  5:23                 ` Billy Tetrud
2022-02-10  6:58 ` Peter Todd
2022-02-10  8:08   ` Jeremy Rubin
2022-02-18 23:50     ` Peter Todd
2022-02-19  0:38       ` Jeremy Rubin
2022-02-19  9:39         ` Peter Todd
2022-02-19 17:20           ` [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] " darosior
2022-02-19 20:35             ` Peter Todd
2022-02-20  2:24               ` ZmnSCPxj
2022-02-20  2:39                 ` ZmnSCPxj
     [not found]             ` <590cf52920040c9cf7517b219624bbb5@willtech.com.au>
2022-02-20 14:24               ` ZmnSCPxj
2022-02-20 16:29                 ` Jeremy Rubin
     [not found]                 ` <CAD5xwhgEeTETburW=OBgHNe_V1kk8o06TDQLiLgdfmP2AEVuPg@mail.gmail.com>
2022-02-20 16:34                   ` ZmnSCPxj
2022-02-20 16:45                     ` Jeremy Rubin
2022-02-20 16:29           ` [bitcoin-dev] " Jeremy Rubin
2022-04-10 19:32             ` Peter Todd
2022-04-11 13:18               ` Jeremy Rubin
2022-04-15 14:52                 ` Peter Todd
2022-04-17 20:57                   ` Jeremy Rubin
2022-04-28 12:15                     ` Peter Todd
2022-05-02 15:59                       ` Jeremy Rubin
2022-06-14 11:12                         ` [bitcoin-dev] Why OpenTimestamps does not "linearize" its transactions Peter Todd
2022-06-14 11:39                           ` Undiscussed Horrific Abuse, One Victim of Many
2022-06-14 11:53                             ` Undiscussed Horrific Abuse, One Victim of Many [this message]
2022-06-14 12:28                               ` rot13maxi
2022-06-14 12:45                                 ` Undiscussed Horrific Abuse, One Victim of Many
2022-06-14 13:55                                   ` Bryan Bishop
2022-06-14 15:06                                     ` digital vagabond
2022-06-14 15:34                                   ` Peter Todd
2022-06-14 17:15                                     ` Undiscussed Horrific Abuse, One Victim of Many
2022-06-14 20:33                                       ` Andrew Poelstra
2022-06-15  1:16                                         ` Undiscussed Horrific Abuse, One Victim of Many
2022-06-15  1:21                                           ` Undiscussed Horrific Abuse, One Victim of Many
2022-06-19 11:04                                           ` Peter Todd
2022-06-14 15:22                               ` Peter Todd

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