I also think that good archives are extremely important. Far more important than being a medium of discussion is capturing all of that discussion for posterity. An unbelievable amount of knowledge capital has been built up in the mailing list over the years and given that Bitcoin is a system that needs to survive complete turnover in its contributor base, it's of extreme importance that we have a system that can capture the archive.

While Nostr might be good towards the end of being very resilient it isn't mature enough to have good UX's built up around it wherein people with a variety of backgrounds can engage it. Personally, I think the email UX leaves a lot to be desired but at least it's accessible to a lot of people. I don't think I can say the same for Nostr yet.

I won't opine much further on the solution but I think the properties we need to solve for are:

1. Archive is effectively permanent
2. Accessible to a wide audience
3. Data format is not proprietary and isn't tied to the success or failure of a particular organization

In principle I think that Nostr can offer a lot in the long term towards this goal, but it isn't really an immediate solution to this problem.

Keags

On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 12:07 PM David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
On 2023-11-07 05:37, Bryan Bishop via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> What about [...] delvingbitcoin.org?

I'm only willing to consider discussion groups that provide good
archives, so I think it's worth noting that James O'Beirne has written
code[1] and is currently maintaining a git repo[2] with a backup of
Delving Bitcoin discussion.  See his post[3] for additional details.

In addition to providing an archive, I currently find it to be nice way
to quickly skim all posts made to the forum since I last checked (plus I
see edits)[4]:

$ cd delving-bitcoin-archive/
$ git pull
$ git log -p archive/rendered-topics/

I think some technical discussions were already migrating to Delving
Bitcoin before the shutdown notice and I expect more discussions to move
there in the future even if the current mailing list is relocated to a
new platform.  Knowing that discussions are archived in a way that I can
easily replicate was key to me feeling comfortable putting significant
time into reading and writing posts on Delving Bitcoin, so I wanted to
share that information here.

-Dave

[1] https://github.com/jamesob/discourse-archive
[2] https://github.com/jamesob/delving-bitcoin-archive
[3] https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/public-archive-for-delving-bitcoin/87/6
[4] Plus every commit makes me laugh.  James O'Beirne's commit robot is
called "jamesobot"
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