From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SPfSV-0005rZ-Gn for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 02 May 2012 19:43:31 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.212.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.181; envelope-from=etotheipi@gmail.com; helo=mail-wi0-f181.google.com; Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com ([209.85.212.181]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1SPfSU-0000zo-6q for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 02 May 2012 19:43:31 +0000 Received: by wibhr17 with SMTP id hr17so947519wib.10 for ; Wed, 02 May 2012 12:43:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.92.9 with SMTP id ci9mr6619344wib.15.1335987803987; Wed, 02 May 2012 12:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.83.103 with HTTP; Wed, 2 May 2012 12:43:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1335808239.18613.YahooMailNeo@web121006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <201205020931.01718.luke@dashjr.org> <201205021230.46349.luke@dashjr.org> <1335986730.68336.YahooMailNeo@web121007.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 15:43:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: Alan Reiner To: Gary Rowe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c81887b208704bf12e61a X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (etotheipi[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1SPfSU-0000zo-6q Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 19:43:31 -0000 --f46d043c81887b208704bf12e61a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm not sure what "designed for occasional use" means. Many users of other clients use them exclusively without touching other clients. Armory is designed to be your only wallet (if bitcoind[d/-qt] is running in bkgd). I'm sure the other clients are the same. Instead, I think that line would be replaced by a blurb about the target audience. "Designed for Advanced Users". "Designed for Quick Setup and Instant usability". Btw, Armory now has full installers for both Windows and Linux (Ubuntu/Debian), with uninstallers and automatic URI registration On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Gary Rowe wrote: > How about keeping it simple? > > Bitcoin-Qt > * Requires the entire blockchain > * Standalone client > * Designed for continuous operation > * Available for Windows, Mac, Linux with installer > * Developed in C > * Website: https://bitcoin.org > > MultiBit > * Requires a reduced blockchain > * Standalone client > * Designed for occasional use > * Available for Windows, Mac, Linux with installer > * Developed in Java > * Website: http://multibit.org > > Armory > * Requires the entire blockchain > * Dependent client of Bitcoin-Qt > * Designed for occasional use > * Available for Windows (64-bit only), Mac, Linux (self-build) > * Developed in Python > * Website: http://bitcoinarmory.com/ > > Electrum > * Requires no blockchain > * Dependent client of Bitcoin-Qt (on server) > * Designed for occasional use > * Available for Windows, Linux (self-build) > * Developed in Python > * Website: http://ecdsa.org/electrum/ > > Bitcoin Wallet (Android client) > * Requires a reduced blockchain > * Standalone client > * Designed for occasional use on mobile > * Available for Android only > * Developed in Java > * Website: > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet&hl=en > > > On 2 May 2012 20:25, Amir Taaki wrote: > >> This is like the most annoying thing about email. Often with group >> emails, we'll be having a conversation then someone will click reply >> instead of group reply and the convo will go on for a while. Eventually >> I'll realise the persons are missing and add them back in. >> >> On Yahoo mail (which I use for spam/mailing lists), to do reply all >> involves clicking a tab, scrolling down and clicking Reply All. Normally I >> instead go through the steps of reply, delete To, re-enter bitco... select >> drop down, click send. >> >> Anyone know how to make reply all the default in mutt? And how can I >> exclude it from re-including my own email when I do a group reply so I >> don't get the same email again. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jeff Garzik >> To: grarpamp >> Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net >> Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page >> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp wrote: >> >> Try "Reply to All" >> > >> > That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc', >> > which dupes to the sender and eventually >> > blows out the to and cc lines as everyone >> > chimes in and doesn't trim. 'reply to' solves >> > most of that. assuming the list sw can do it. >> >> "Reply-To" Munging Considered Harmful >> http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html >> >> >> >> -- >> Jeff Garzik >> exMULTI, Inc. >> jgarzik@exmulti.com >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Bitcoin-development mailing list >> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >> threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Bitcoin-development mailing list >> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > --f46d043c81887b208704bf12e61a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not sure what "designed for occasional use" means. =A0 Ma= ny users of other clients use them exclusively without touching other clien= ts. =A0Armory is designed to be your only wallet (if bitcoind[d/-qt] is run= ning in bkgd). =A0I'm sure the other clients are the same.

Instead, I think that line would be replaced by a blurb about the = target audience. =A0"Designed for Advanced Users". =A0"Desig= ned for Quick Setup and Instant usability".=A0

Btw, Armory now has full installers for both Windows and Linux (Ubuntu/Debi= an), with uninstallers and automatic URI registration



On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:34 PM,= Gary Rowe <g.rowe@froot.co.uk> wrote:
How about keeping it simple?
=
Bitcoin-Qt
* Requires the entire blockchain
<= div> * Standalone client
* Designed for continuous operation
* Available for Windows, Mac, Linux with installer
* Developed in C

MultiBit=
* Requires a reduced blockchain=A0
* Standalone client=
* Designed for occasional use
* Available for Windows, Mac, Linux with installer
* Develop= ed in Java =A0

Armory
* Requires the entire blockchain
* Dependent client of Bitcoin-Qt=A0
* Designed for occasiona= l use
* Available for Windows (64-bit only), Mac, Linux (self-bui= ld)
* Developed in Python

Electrum
* Requires no blockchain
*= Dependent client of Bitcoin-Qt (on server)
* Designed for occasi= onal use
* Available for Windows, Linux (self-build)
* Developed in Python

Bitcoin Wallet (Android client)
* Requires a reduced blockc= hain
* Standalone client
* Designed for occasional use on mobile
* Available for Andr= oid only
* Developed in Java


On 2 May 2012 20:25, Amir Taa= ki <zgenjix@yahoo.com> wrote:
This is like the most annoying thing about email. Often with group emails, = we'll be having a conversation then someone will click reply instead of= group reply and the convo will go on for a while. Eventually I'll real= ise the persons are missing and add them back in.

On Yahoo mail (which I use for spam/mailing lists), to do reply all involve= s clicking a tab, scrolling down and clicking Reply All. Normally I instead= go through the steps of reply, delete To, re-enter bitco... select drop do= wn, click send.

Anyone know how to make reply all the default in mutt? And how can I exclud= e it from re-including my own email when I do a group reply so I don't = get the same email again.



----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@exmulti.com>
To: grarpamp <gr= arpamp@gmail.com>
Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote= :
>> Try "Reply to All"
>
> That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc',
> which dupes to the sender and eventually
> blows out the to and cc lines as everyone
> chimes in and doesn't trim. 'reply to' solves
> most of that. assuming the list sw can do it.

"Reply-To" Munging Considered Harmful
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html



--
Jeff Garzik
exMULTI, Inc.
jgarzik@exmulti.co= m

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