Oh, like I did 3 hours ago?  Gah!  I replied directly to grarpamp by accident.  Sorry if this seems out of place now...

I'm all for sorting the clients by "ease of use".  We want the smoothest first experience greeting users new to Bitcoin.  I have grand plans of defaulting Armory to a standard user mode that is standalone, easy to use, etc.  But until then, Armory will remain an a power-users thing, and I'd prefer not to have Bitcoin n00bs emailing me for support before they know what Bitcoin-Qt is, or, more likely, installing Armory alone and then walking away when nothing works.

As someone else mentioned previously, the advanced stuff will generally be found by advanced users.  I think it should still receive exposure through these means, but not on the top/first row.  

I personally think the page should say something like "New to Bitcoin?   Start experiencing Bitcoin with My Phone <menu of phone options>, or My Desktop <menu of desktop options>"  Put the top 3 on each and either a button for "More Options", or a short list of other options without screenshots, and just descriptions with links.  Ideally, it would be sorted by popularity, because that's probably the most important metric that ties together all features into a single number, but we don't have good stats on that.  For now, we settle this by putting Bitcoin-Qt up front, and sort everything else by how easy it is for users to get started and perceived popularity and disagreements can be settled by semi-regular rotation.  

For now, I don't think ordering is super important.  No one here is threatening lawsuits for improper placement, and the rotation will be good to keep the main Bitcoin page looking less stagnant, and slowly exposing repeat visitors to the variety of options available.

--Alan




On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Amir Taaki <zgenjix@yahoo.com> wrote:
This is like the most annoying thing about email. Often with group emails, we'll be having a conversation then someone will click reply instead of group reply and the convo will go on for a while. Eventually I'll realise the persons are missing and add them back in.

On Yahoo mail (which I use for spam/mailing lists), to do reply all involves clicking a tab, scrolling down and clicking Reply All. Normally I instead go through the steps of reply, delete To, re-enter bitco... select drop down, click send.

Anyone know how to make reply all the default in mutt? And how can I exclude it from re-including my own email when I do a group reply so I don't get the same email again.



----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@exmulti.com>
To: grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com>
Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Try "Reply to All"
>
> That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc',
> which dupes to the sender and eventually
> blows out the to and cc lines as everyone
> chimes in and doesn't trim. 'reply to' solves
> most of that. assuming the list sw can do it.

"Reply-To" Munging Considered Harmful
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html



--
Jeff Garzik
exMULTI, Inc.
jgarzik@exmulti.com

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