From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YL8si-0005VF-3l for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:21:28 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.216.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.175; envelope-from=martin.habovstiak@gmail.com; helo=mail-qc0-f175.google.com; Received: from mail-qc0-f175.google.com ([209.85.216.175]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1YL8sg-00009B-AZ for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:21:28 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id c9so27848309qcz.6 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 03:21:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.64.67 with SMTP id d3mr37120314qci.9.1423567280843; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 03:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.19.18 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 03:21:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 12:21:20 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?TeKStnJ0aW4gSOKStmJv4pOLxaF0aWFr?= To: Natanael Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (martin.habovstiak[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1YL8sg-00009B-AZ Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Standardizing automatic pre-negotiation of transaction terms with BIP70? (Emulating Amazon one-click purchase at all merchants) X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:21:28 -0000 2015-02-10 12:12 GMT+01:00 Natanael : > Den 10 feb 2015 11:48 skrev "M=E2=92=B6rtin H=E2=92=B6bo=E2=93=8B=C5=A1ti= ak" > : >> >> I still don't understand. The website can have this information >> available. This is exactly what e-bay does - it displays shipping >> information to my country before I do anything. What's the problem? >> >> Also with other stuff, website can do it and browser extension can do >> it too without messing with Bitcoin. > > 1: IP isn't guaranteed to work correctly both because you might be using = a > VPN out Tor. Still possible using web browser extension. > > 2: Yes, the site can display all options right away, but are you willing = to > read all of them too? Why not? And again, browser extension can do it without bitcoin wallet - no need to connect unrelated things. > > 3: Detailed information is not necessary, nor does it have to be unprompt= ed. > It doesn't need to tell you more than which country you are in. It can ev= en > prompt you with a popup that has a slider that shows exactly how much > information and of what kind you're about to share (including none, if > that's your choice). > > 4: It doesn't need to share raw data. Take a look at anonymous credential= s: > http://www.zurich.ibm.com/idemix/ > https://eprint.iacr.org/2013/622.pdf > > 5: It can wait for prompting until you add the first item to the cart. Everything you described is possible without Bitcoin involved - why would we mix unrelated things? P.S.: I believe in Unix philosophy. ;)