From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C715DE1 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:06:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com (mail-ob0-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F20EE18E for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbfr1 with SMTP id fr1so16497810obb.1 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 05:06:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=k0tBNKLKO0CJnyvVwWpA75H3d0cMCvmvGpFwCW6i0sY=; b=BGunRD/Iubsinxkltu2KZN47WnBe+51cCofYCHk9UA1Ce6OtuRmDJ8ULaFKWDMI1+Q LaF2qrJttHV+72+/nBiPQptttPtRa38HOMDqWmLJsIcqcqjNw+nJ5BsDQkHoXezbX3rx OCPD6M8vDyPqI3awSYmSxU48QjIKCg865NxEYouhlYN1MsUdR5xofJVyQ7cFBsS9r+6H lyNW2h/1ckUZxGJ7bsxwKhCaOeXBcMs7ujbs/C8sEdw8WKPE/89ihVZBQopezbu8fgTQ 9DzTOJmwuKBJTrbLgStQI2zSHvFO8mRDkXpThQa3hFG8oND7s0Pm8IWoPjtKHA1xqo2g igAw== X-Received: by 10.60.176.37 with SMTP id cf5mr2235288oec.19.1440677193329; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 05:06:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.45.214 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 05:06:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: prabhat Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:36:13 +0530 Message-ID: To: "Chris D'Costa" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0117627d583252051e49cc7e X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIPS proposal for implementing AML-KYC in bitcoin X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:06:34 -0000 --089e0117627d583252051e49cc7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks for the comments and feedback. I have previously read those threads as suggested by some members. In relation with transactions, I do agree with suggestions that they should be left on their own, and assumed that people would work in the best interest of themselves and society. Everything is debatable, but let's agree with it. But for miners, I can think of no other option to stop those who are hashing and winning blocks+transaction fees and not in safe country list(directly or indirectly). Some have asked for proofs, but that is tough to substantiate. I have hints, honestly. Would you sit idle if Haqqani network is funded by bitcoin mining? We have created a billion dollar market by bitcoin and ,sadly, for everyone without borders. Sick, I am saying this, but freedom is more of responsibility than celebrations of open hugs. And those who don't care about it are threat for you and us, equally. Folks, suggest something, scrap my idea, but let's build something to save this ecosystem, otherwise it is impossible to realise this dream of decentralized currency. Other coins and protocols are there who may implement something, and egoists always meet the ashes. Criticize with open mind. Best, Prabhat Kumar Singh On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Chris D'Costa wrote: > What evidence do you have that there is 'illicit miners and users' and > that there are no illicit users of the non-bitcoin financial systems? > > I can buy drugs openly in Amsterdam for Euros, but cannot in the UK for > sterling. > > Is the act of buying drugs somewhere in the world illicit activity or not? > > > > On 27 August 2015 at 10:10, prabhat via bitcoin-dev < > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am proposing to create a AML-KYC module to control the network and also >> qualify use cases in OFAC compliant way. >> Here is the attached doc. >> >> Please provide your feedback and suggestions. >> >> Best, >> Prabhat Kumar Singh >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bitcoin-dev mailing list >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >> >> > --089e0117627d583252051e49cc7e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the comments and feedback.
I have previousl= y read those threads as suggested by some members.
In relation wi= th transactions, I do agree with suggestions that they should be left on th= eir own, and assumed that people would work in the =C2=A0best interest of t= hemselves and society. Everything is debatable, but let's agree with it= .
But for miners, I can think of no other option to stop those wh= o are hashing and winning blocks+transaction fees and not in safe country l= ist(directly or indirectly).
Some have asked for proofs, but that= is tough to substantiate. I have hints, honestly.=C2=A0

Would you sit idle if Haqqani network is funded by bitcoin mining?

We have created a billion dollar market by bitcoin = and ,sadly, for everyone without borders. Sick, I am saying this, but freed= om is more of responsibility than celebrations of open hugs. And those who = don't care about it are threat for you and us, equally.

<= /div>
Folks, suggest something, scrap my idea, but let's build some= thing to save this ecosystem, otherwise it is impossible to realise this dr= eam of decentralized currency. Other coins and protocols are there who may = implement something, and egoists always meet the ashes.

Criticize with open mind.=

Best,=
Prabhat Kumar Singh

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Chris D'= ;Costa <chrisjdcosta@gmail.com> wrote:
What evidence do you have that there is = 'illicit miners and users' and that there are no illicit users of t= he non-bitcoin financial systems?=C2=A0

I can buy drugs = openly in Amsterdam for Euros, but cannot in the UK for sterling.=C2=A0
Is the act of buying drugs somewhere in the world illicit a= ctivity or not?


=

On 27 August 2015 at 10:10, prabhat= via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.or= g> wrote:
=
Hi,

I am proposing to create a AML-KYC module to control the network and a= lso qualify use cases in OFAC compliant way.
Here is the attached doc.

Please provide your feedback and = suggestions.

Best,
Prabhat Kumar Singh
=

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