From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 989E81E10 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 10:42:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.197]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A92313C for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 10:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f173.google.com ([209.85.223.173]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M72fb-1aV7VE0mKz-00wkbi for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 12:42:09 +0200 Received: by iofh134 with SMTP id h134so17442981iof.0 for ; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 03:42:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.135.196 with SMTP id r65mr877173ioi.131.1444214528555; Wed, 07 Oct 2015 03:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.85.135 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Oct 2015 03:42:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 12:42:08 +0200 Message-ID: From: Adam Back To: Ryan Grant Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:P3y4UFeeBMAU6HGZ5UjRJxiD1on0QV4Gq/3s8psbGaI56WwC8WT gEYn9q/LS4obAMOyaeZ1e69+y0Q/dfjYYkBWkhWbg2+0OtAKuKXnP77mOzc9J8RQXd+8Skt m3yLaM0ZH3lr5d7a2BYaMFDglEYJrUHUajKSIdbx31Gl6ytqFg4jraCRSiorLPFv7SVF2qP g8UO5VmqW4Rt6MMJ/L/9A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:oxbOPtoBwBk=:5TeXLJKLEOho4U7pNRCSIz Hh0mKs9CeD/mFjzBGTpvXT+aiRLuI6cg/D6xvXG8bUoYKd+1Che6rOt6dLIB/nhwf4JxNAi0l IiESOwlqVKFl7w1tJvsIrt9L7Vn7QfVkMA60lvhK0QL6cP08tiRm4Hrx+QDdWN35ugdUcih54 ENn4w+4YBNRGmohiuMy+pq+31TVLJbRhHidihu/y6Agla0kWCKTdAeyCYhiABb8RylzmJfOFy WUz0KwquH+AGQybqijv71vfQ93R8bK6OkquzWNkL4mswzFPn2jMQg2BDR/NarEoVnH8jPGbEn IzwcJKmeJSzrg9B5WmqF4XqYtqVSbFjKnR9BOIzK+9VvcDB5pLXCV7D0jj1oGMHJxqSTAIx8l msUQjUTh+I79xGPtGg8x3iF1cUrt8ZMdMcA53ysem+w2mS4WPylNHieR4Gc3HFb5jhz7PU8dj yNGUYShyXrrOefP+/01hEEzlluGB6udRaCF15H2oteWQXd9fvN1JK6nQHiDWo6n1e0PDirsr5 1+jkhX7HWj+PSJOP0j44fT0/h9PBc25SneWSyRqsqBQNbMVgrn+45eroQ2VDKM89ZfLGrlp17 4H3P0oXtuYToYBUmWMPf49b0cyyBFGY/CMi2/Yr+R1Sc6OuFHPBS48AdHLWEPpNTu4LDGzNyv Ae4+PACwyevfHhlg4ngYn+YdCg2rP9s7Mf52Zt6iZT9VeQcmFhlT+XkXzHBs6m7+9+hutJzCQ yKAusb/k2TYVA0ik X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] on rough consensus X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 10:42:10 -0000 Thank you for posting that, most informative, and suggest people arguing here lately to read it carefully. May I suggest that people who wish to debate what rough consensus means, to take it to this reddit thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ntga9/bitcoindev_a_brilliant_post_on_defining_consensus/ Thanks again for posting, helpful context/reminder for all. Adam On 7 October 2015 at 07:07, Ryan Grant via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Bitcoin's participants can improve their ability to stay on a valuable > and censorship resistant blockchain by individually and informally > absorbing cultural wisdom regarding "rough consensus". This does not > require writing any formal rules about what rough consensus is. It is > a matter of participation with an understanding. > > https://www.ietf.org/tao.html#rfc.section.2 ...