From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1X9E37-0001Iv-A2 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:54:41 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.219.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.46; envelope-from=decker.christian@gmail.com; helo=mail-oa0-f46.google.com; Received: from mail-oa0-f46.google.com ([209.85.219.46]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1X9E36-000220-BV for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:54:41 +0000 Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id m1so7414650oag.33 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 06:54:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.60.52.5 with SMTP id p5mr37360217oeo.55.1405950871879; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 06:54:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.3.161 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 06:53:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Christian Decker Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 14:53:51 +0100 Message-ID: To: Wladimir Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (decker.christian[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.0 T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT Fill in a short form with personal information X-Headers-End: 1X9E36-000220-BV Cc: kevin , Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Policy for DNS seeds X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:54:41 -0000 How about research projects into node distribution? Specifically I wonder whether the collection and analysis of DNS query origin is allowed when queries are anonymized and aggregated. This would prevent the identification of a single user, which I assume is the rationale for point 4. Other than that I'm perfectly fine with accepting the rules for seed.bitcoinstats.com Regards, Christian -- Christian Decker On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Wladimir wrote: > We've established a few basic rules for the DNS seeds as used in the > Bitcoin Core software. See below. > > If you run one of the DNS seeds please reply to this and let us know > whether you agree to these terms. if you think some requirements are > unreasonable let us know too. If we haven't heard from you by > 2014-08-04 we will remove your DNS seed from the list of defaults. > > Expectations for DNSSeed operators > ==================================== > > Bitcoin Core attempts to minimize the level of trust in DNS seeds, > but DNS seeds still pose a small amount of risk for the network. > Other implementations of Bitcoin software may also use the same > seeds and may be more exposed. In light of this exposure this > document establishes some basic expectations for the expectations > for the operation of dnsseeds. > > 0. A DNSseed operating organization or person is expected > to follow good host security practices and maintain control of > their serving infrastructure and not sell or transfer control of their > infrastructure. Any hosting services contracted by the operator are > equally expected to uphold these expectations. > > 1. The DNSseed results must consist exclusively of fairly selected and > functioning Bitcoin nodes from the public network to the best of the > operators understanding and capability. > > 2. For the avoidance of doubt, the results may be randomized but must not > single-out any group of hosts to receive different results unless due to an > urgent technical necessity and disclosed. > > 3. The results may not be served with a DNS TTL of less than one minute. > > 4. Any logging of DNS queries should be only that which is necessary > for the operation of the service or urgent health of the Bitcoin > network and must not be retained longer than necessary or disclosed > to any third party. > > 5. Information gathered as a result of the operators node-spidering > (not from DNS queries) may be freely published or retained, but only > if this data was not made more complete by biasing node connectivity > (a violation of expectation (1)). > > 6. Operators are encouraged, but not required, to publicly document > the details of their operating practices. > > 7. A reachable email contact address must be published for inquiries > related to the DNSseed operation. > > If these expectations cannot be satisfied the operator should > discontinue providing services and contact the active Bitcoin > Core development team as well as posting on bitcoin-development. > > Behavior outside of these expectations may be reasonable in some > situations but should be discussed in public in advance. > > ======== > > See > https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4566 > > Wladimir