From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YzNAa-0005IK-Me for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:42:12 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 74.125.82.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.47; envelope-from=pindar.wong@gmail.com; helo=mail-wg0-f47.google.com; Received: from mail-wg0-f47.google.com ([74.125.82.47]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1YzNAZ-0006H0-I7 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:42:12 +0000 Received: by wgez8 with SMTP id z8so110449987wge.0 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 03:42:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.195.13.1 with SMTP id eu1mr40409168wjd.131.1433155325565; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 03:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.156.226 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 03:42:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <554BE0E1.5030001@bluematt.me> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:42:05 +0800 Message-ID: From: Pindar Wong To: Mike Hearn Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd9131a16a0900517727a7b X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (pindar.wong[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.0 AWL AWL: Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address X-Headers-End: 1YzNAZ-0006H0-I7 Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: Block Size Increase Requirements X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:42:12 -0000 --047d7bd9131a16a0900517727a7b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Mike Hearn wrote: > Whilst it would be nice if miners in China can carry on forever regardless > of their internet situation, nobody has any inherent "right" to mine if > they can't do the job - if miners in China can't get the trivial amounts of > bandwidth required through their firewall and end up being outcompeted then > OK, too bad, we'll have to carry on without them. > I'd rather think of mining as a responsibility than a right per se, but you're right in so far as it's competitive and self-correcting. > > But I'm not sure why it should be a big deal. They can always run a node > on a server in Taiwan and connect the hardware to it via a VPN or so. > > Let's agree to disagree on this point. p. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > --047d7bd9131a16a0900517727a7b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> wrote:
Whilst it would be nice if miners in China can carry on foreve= r regardless of their internet situation, nobody has any inherent "rig= ht" to mine if they can't do the job - if miners in China can'= t get the trivial amounts of bandwidth required through their firewall and = end up being outcompeted then OK, too bad, we'll have to carry on witho= ut them.

I'd rather think o= f mining as a responsibility than a right per se, but you're right in s= o far as it's competitive and self-correcting.
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But I'm not sure why it sho= uld be a big deal. They can always run a node on a server in Taiwan and con= nect the hardware to it via a VPN or so.


=C2=A0Let's agree to disagree on this point.<= br>
p.

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