From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YzCqM-0003h5-0U for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 31 May 2015 23:40:38 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.212.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.179; envelope-from=pindar.wong@gmail.com; helo=mail-wi0-f179.google.com; Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com ([209.85.212.179]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1YzCqL-000285-05 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 31 May 2015 23:40:37 +0000 Received: by wifw1 with SMTP id w1so84678412wif.0 for ; Sun, 31 May 2015 16:40:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.84.179 with SMTP id a19mr35003304wjz.29.1433115630992; Sun, 31 May 2015 16:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.156.226 with HTTP; Sun, 31 May 2015 16:40:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <554BE0E1.5030001@bluematt.me> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 07:40:30 +0800 Message-ID: From: Pindar Wong To: Ricardo Filipe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bfcfa0a1b85440517693ce6 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (pindar.wong[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1YzCqL-000285-05 Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: Block Size Increase Requirements X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 23:40:38 -0000 --047d7bfcfa0a1b85440517693ce6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Ricardo Filipe wrote: > He also said that the equation for miners has many variables, as it > should. There is no disadvantage if the network speed is the same > between the miners. Hi, Is that an assumption? If there is a difference in network speed, the > miner is incentivized to invest in their network infrastructure. > Perhaps it's best not to assume that investing in Internet network infrastructure's a free or open market everywhere. p. > > 2015-05-31 23:55 GMT+01:00 Alex Mizrahi : > >> Yes, if you are on a slow network then you are at a (slight) > disadvantage. > >> So? > > > > > > Chun mentioned that his pool is on a slow network, and thus bigger blocks > > give it an disadvantage. (Orphan rate is proportional to block size.) > > You said that no, on contrary those who make big blocks have a > disadvantage. > > And now you say that yes, this disadvantage exist. > > > > Did you just lie to Chun? > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bitcoin-development mailing list > > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > --047d7bfcfa0a1b85440517693ce6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Ricardo Filipe <ricardojdfilip= e@gmail.com> wrote:
He also said that the equation for miners has many variables, a= s it
should. There is no disadvantage if the network speed is the same
between the miners.

Hi,

= Is that an assumption?

If there is a difference in network speed, the
miner is incentivized to invest in their network infrastructure.

Perhaps it's best not to=C2=A0 assume th= at investing in Internet network infrastructure's a free or open market= everywhere.=C2=A0

p.
=C2=A0

2015-05-31 23:55 GMT+01:00 Alex Mizrahi <alex.mizrahi@gmail.com>:
>> Yes, if you are on a slow network then you are at a (slight) disad= vantage.
>> So?
>
>
> Chun mentioned that his pool is on a slow network, and thus bigger blo= cks
> give it an disadvantage. (Orphan rate is proportional to block size.)<= br> > You said that no, on contrary those who make big blocks have a disadva= ntage.
> And now you say that yes, this disadvantage exist.
>
> Did you just lie to Chun?
>
>
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