From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UFVW6-0000kx-S3 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:09:46 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of coinlab.com designates 209.85.216.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.181; envelope-from=peter@coinlab.com; helo=mail-qc0-f181.google.com; Received: from mail-qc0-f181.google.com ([209.85.216.181]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1UFVW3-0005pa-B1 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:09:46 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id a22so117675qcs.12 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:09:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=KiwkiNJotd8PVL+L3lQcr8MaHbtXk14VgX5mRTmIk7k=; b=al1eDt2iVewvWKMyULkUheueYLQWAIAkgp8YTgm56tNF/kT6tU6tLY0wTEJ2Tiennk cR2Uy5cq5cAyundheyFggEcW1cxa4NjsNOWjkrXv9v0bv8MdLPL6QdSoyhKlJvU8yITb 1La9oOujCLvwotwzQRNRcoVDSiHUq0G021HspUSMBN77caucA/7LsufL1UPKxClImfWT lVdKRGe4Z7MYbGDE3jEeVFzDmJMts8ugeymspuuhp0gIeN1tbv2B5dl2KDRPtRVuDfEs fq71Nftci9wzpAtc4o4pLHONFwj9PnwK+Juh6ZOlErtLYUDz88G5mPB3MhZczM+XZQAG MyQQ== X-Received: by 10.49.12.143 with SMTP id y15mr27527527qeb.27.1363118977608; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:09:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.104.138 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:09:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <513ED35A.8080203@gmail.com> <201303121210.34515.luke@dashjr.org> From: Peter Vessenes Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:09:17 -0700 Message-ID: To: Christian Decker Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b62239c729cdb04d7bfdeca X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQky81L6Ff+9aP+BQOg3lK72hMCrbqjzv1S0hPeAAeT2yhB9J3/XtzBpFoWstsKYDiXk/yx4 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Headers-End: 1UFVW3-0005pa-B1 Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Some PR preparation X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:09:47 -0000 --047d7b62239c729cdb04d7bfdeca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Chris. Yep, looks like an honest-ish user managed to accidentally get one tx into one chain and another into the other. I think I'd cautiously say that if OKPay gets their cash back, or freezes his balance nobody is out BTC for last night, (instead just time and effort). I'm doing a little FUD-fighting right now, but will try and pick up a bit more if necessary tonight after my flight lands. I think this is mostly over the heads of a lot of our typical media contacts, though. Peter On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Christian Decker < decker.christian@gmail.com> wrote: > Just a quick and dirty check if something bad actually happened. 430 > transactions that were confirmed in the alt-chain, are not confirmed > in the true blockchain. The good news is that as far as I can tell > most of them are low volume transactions destined for SD. > > 7 transactions were true double spends, or to be more precise > transactions in which an conflicting transaction was confirmed in the > new chain (with their respective amount): > > 12814b8ad57ce5654ba69eb26a52ddae1bff42093ca20cef3ad96fe7fd85d195 261 BTC > cb36ba33b3ecd4d3177d786209670c9e6cdf95eb62be54986f0b49ca292714af 0.06 BTC > 7192807f952b252081d0db0aa7575c4695b945820adaf7776b7189e6b3d86f96 0.01 BTC > 355d4ea51c3b780cf0b10e8099a06a31484e0060bc140b63f3d6e5fb713ace5e 0.05 BTC > b961bc0c663a46893afd3166a604e7e2639533522d9fec61fdb95eb665e86f5a 0.61 BTC > 138063e4bdb76feaa511f1e7f9c681eb468ef9140c141671741c965e503b84c6 1.62 BTC > a10bd194cdbf9aa4c12eb0b120056998a081a9b0d93d70570edff24dec831f90 0.81 > > So the one transaction that really hurt was the one published on > BitcoinTalk. We're not yet out of the woods as some of the 423 > transactions still have a chance of being doublespent, but looks like > it's not that bad after all. > > Cheers, > Chris > > P.S.: For a complete list of transactions see http://pastebin.com/wctJU3Ln > -- > Christian Decker > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Gregory Maxwell > wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Gregory Maxwell > wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Peter Vessenes > wrote: > >>> Can some enterprising soul determine if there were any double-spend > attempts? > >>> I'm assuming no, and if that's the case, we should talk about that > publicly. > > [snip] > >> I agree it would be good to confirm no one was ripped off, even though > >> we can't say there weren't any attempts. > > > > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152348.msg1616747#msg1616747 > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Everyone hates slow websites. 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Thanks Chris.

Yep, looks like an = honest-ish user managed to accidentally get one tx into one chain and anoth= er into the other.

I think I'd cau= tiously say that if OKPay gets their cash back, or freezes his balance nobo= dy is out BTC for last night, (instead just time and effort).

I'm doing a little FUD-fighting right n= ow, but will try and pick up a bit more if necessary tonight after my fligh= t lands. I think this is mostly over the heads of a lot of our typical medi= a contacts, though.

Peter


On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Chris= tian Decker <decker.christian@gmail.com> wrote:
Just a quick and dirty check if something ba= d actually happened. 430
transactions that were confirmed in the alt-chain, are not confirmed
in the true blockchain. The good news is that as far as I can tell
most of them are low volume transactions destined for SD.

7 transactions were true double spends, or to be more precise
transactions in which an conflicting transaction was confirmed in the
new chain (with their respective amount):

12814b8ad57ce5654ba69eb26a52ddae1bff42093ca20cef3ad96fe7fd85d195 261 BTC cb36ba33b3ecd4d3177d786209670c9e6cdf95eb62be54986f0b49ca292714af 0.06 BTC 7192807f952b252081d0db0aa7575c4695b945820adaf7776b7189e6b3d86f96 0.01 BTC 355d4ea51c3b780cf0b10e8099a06a31484e0060bc140b63f3d6e5fb713ace5e 0.05 BTC b961bc0c663a46893afd3166a604e7e2639533522d9fec61fdb95eb665e86f5a 0.61 BTC 138063e4bdb76feaa511f1e7f9c681eb468ef9140c141671741c965e503b84c6 1.62 BTC a10bd194cdbf9aa4c12eb0b120056998a081a9b0d93d70570edff24dec831f90 0.81

So the one transaction that really hurt was the one published on
BitcoinTalk. We're not yet out of the woods as some of the 423
transactions still have a chance of being doublespent, but looks like
it's not that bad after all.

Cheers,
Chris

P.S.: For a complete list of transactions see http://pastebin.com/wctJU3Ln
--
Christian Decker


On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Peter Vessenes <peter@coinlab.com> wrote:
>>> Can some enterprising soul determine if there were any double-= spend attempts?
>>> I'm assuming no, and if that's the case, we should tal= k about that publicly.
> [snip]
>> I agree it would be good to confirm no one was ripped off, even th= ough
>> we can't say there weren't any attempts.
>
> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D15= 2348.msg1616747#msg1616747
>
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