From: Peter Vessenes <peter@coinlab.com>
To: Amir Taaki <zgenjix@yahoo.com>
Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net"
<bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP 33 - Stratized Nodes
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 09:49:18 -0700 [thread overview]
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Thanks for this, Amir.
My initial reactions:
1) This is cool and useful (but see 3)
2) This is significantly less secure than validating an entire blockchain;
it's certainly worth working out some use cases here in more detail than
just a sample conversation. More on this below
3) What about discovery? Will a client now have the chance to look for
NODE_STRATIZED clients on IRC? How do you envision a stratized server
decides which transactions to relay/store? Or is it just a caching layer in
front of a high quality blockchain service? If it is just a caching
service, the question of cache hits / misses is an interesting one as well.
4) What are the economic motivations to run a stratized server? Other than
cheating people of course.
5) Seems like a 'send me everything for this source address' is going to
save a lot of roundtrip conversations for what I imagine the most common
request will be.
Inre: majority agreement on transactions, and even balances, it would be
nice to work out some theoretical security / cost / value calculations for
the following scenarios:
Likely value and cost to someone of subverting / lying about
1) An n-confirmation transaction, n > 0
2) A 0 confirmation transaction
3) A NODE_STRATIZED transaction chain for a client with m connections to
NODE_STRATIZED servers
4) An address balance request for a client with m connections to
NODE_BALANCE_INFO (I made this name up) servers
Peter
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-16 16:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-16 16:34 [Bitcoin-development] BIP 33 - Stratized Nodes Amir Taaki
2012-05-16 16:46 ` Mike Hearn
2012-05-16 17:32 ` Amir Taaki
2012-05-16 18:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2012-05-16 16:49 ` Peter Vessenes [this message]
2012-05-16 17:37 ` Amir Taaki
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