From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 615B0CE8 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:32:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-vk0-f50.google.com (mail-vk0-f50.google.com [209.85.213.50]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9C23786 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk0-f50.google.com with SMTP id s17-v6so1828662vke.10 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 10:32:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rgrant-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=UinrIzH8lmS3yCezykEVbqA63QWQ5g9vFvrqYewHHkE=; b=bMuimCw9Uau39KJywjpL4DCJG7OsS2oaMKFe6clQJvsR7te+oWN0aFq6SDt/RBJV7M APJ3iRtLzIPhyze2Q2gnhtbHGXfEcghMsyfWGbl+Kr4l8pcTGQVEIyPvcI5fP+xmZFfm cl6ytpVdiaS9bMHH30vOYtQIvivF9MESJ3Wbmb5kzDtk9CKsJ5+izMhAXZAe/d0GiZE/ CJjnBBSRmFCUtPkF9CacWQZyomQY7WXr9+kj9RuKZsR8RCGLhf8Kt2YVlDU6gxuOrdVG cWkZ8IDDiUfZWTdpQYMCEXnwMMTkyuhcGwQTGKs2nW9GV6zY89wnzubPTEHUZIa3u4qh fJ1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UinrIzH8lmS3yCezykEVbqA63QWQ5g9vFvrqYewHHkE=; b=nxEZns4m2f4aQpuwBSN0YV+Pvyc8o817LHpCTnbMZc1LY22q5hBplk/9W0eaLljojB Xh04I/wUZ9Ar0+2EXJtWC9+JBGL9LFyrQZaDlAc1a/pQO7WqENtuLL3/kG9vQobAnLdf w09mc/xgfhRDN2vow6aug8sW/qtK5mduzyK7FqFq6CVoS4KXSgtD3+/Z4RQce9C1S+Dy UVi90+Cdl0WUuLGOKT6uaOL717oLdFkQ1Vv3jQMuB+GHVxuhm2t6XYz+mA4R6t9Xcsyg 3c7Aken2YIJgc/Iu+MoGkXtqn6IfMpXTg94pmTzrGydS0I/dWCREHqzRZrolg2BA8DQ4 6sMA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlF7ltBFS1Fa28eJnOjPTKvB88FqiNuz1/WR1VMI6n98XrMevbp0 6HyKayYq9aBjuqMkF+oo6c0lX1IVdBijrt0WmA6FaQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPwM90k2+DhQulhp0bYTb3WSF2Dp1ZVvOdYg6Q+S1oBVdyCp37xevz0hgH4J4vOIWNeqs1O1DQBGyiEBXB1mzDU= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:234c:: with SMTP id j73-v6mr20337379vkj.93.1534440775950; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 10:32:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: rgrant@rgrant.org Received: by 2002:a67:a909:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Aug 2018 10:32:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ryan Grant Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:32:25 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Wjn7Gsrmit3yovT-CBGCWT9IRAk Message-ID: To: Jude Nelson , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Claiming an OP_RETURN Prefix X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 17:32:57 -0000 On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 8:40 PM, Jude Nelson via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Can a miner identify which transactions came from your software simply by > running a copy themselves? If so, then they can censor your transactions no > matter how you encode them. The hash of the file is deterministic and `ipfs add` tells us what it is whether the network is connected or disconnected. We don't upload files to IPFS until the transaction has settled with several confirmations.