From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D87AAB6C for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:06:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-yw1-f48.google.com (mail-yw1-f48.google.com [209.85.161.48]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58433D0 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw1-f48.google.com with SMTP id r199so2477732ywe.4 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 06:06:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bitcoinbank.co.jp; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xJmHcBAAVbAaE8EkpXGUC2naY+YOxfso3dz+8oduCfU=; b=M/FWVzqBdRl6A3+/FrTBWuLMulpYN51B7zNeUk7jh92wn3fAuxRT5gfUEXSZdIqMga ZGiXANTC326psActBAlSEWhqkROWbp9E5vfuq/LQaD39iEmjo2HG90JvUKXdbakmASGY 74+i+cnahwiXb3jZjiFC4OcdsD44bnApLSvbmeNwYV0YN3m0B9RLi7+h3Yf7iaw2L++1 hxA/KZXiuc5pKmP+qv6/z3Izt1MnSaYv0fG5Izk94DR9DPhX1jiLfe4QGcwa1gyO9/1P iJ6c5CLeakikSPHnroBUNiTygSM2EMZhLcYxyicb4HQfhypA2B0alcGpn+v2BnGUG9LY Y+3w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xJmHcBAAVbAaE8EkpXGUC2naY+YOxfso3dz+8oduCfU=; b=fbrWpFKdKVsIBfjAO57lNHemLjnyWH0ZXkZzgwtspgmhmzjq7wRaGx2pCIsALv31PE ws2FbTT6DcsuEptElipLI8fwoGgN3v+RmWjXBHOiyFii544MuA0Jlu54UhCCqc+KdgMK dbRYXXmV4BfUPFiDP/h+Qrj1SV33XAS73/HnFx1DJ0KJ5fjb20weVd3sxiFvniIfid3v zSwz70XTbLL0tZq1MADk0yiQ1MdeWIdxjGOKqaG5WuCHt8n1/Sn0JbG+6EgBlDz2cb9W O/RrjLHQDdALmF1sgZ8airTJWbwJVdv71PczLOvn4LlZYZdN1rvfinO/LJzrz1E775bc Wb6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gIfRxn0qhMwfKa1reJjS0wZMT7En8OXTCBKNTlaNn9+uIlymfNM 0+c2NqsC/7DYeGDtnuXlQxQDFX4rOdi+YaSqOfaE X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5etql7nlYyldoOYQNi4wejPAy+sA/McPu3qpvKAPjvuaSikfnXh8qsSU7PEPZlL3yx9/nLiCspews36Isc8XOQ= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:cbd1:: with SMTP id n200mr6614404ywd.63.1542377162906; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 06:06:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181116140335.GA11584@boiler.chaos.net> In-Reply-To: <20181116140335.GA11584@boiler.chaos.net> From: Jonathan Underwood Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 23:05:50 +0900 Message-ID: To: Neill Miller Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e7d62d057ac8aa5f" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_OBFUSCATE_05_10, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:22:00 +0000 Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org, somber.night@protonmail.com Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP- & SLIP-0039 -- better multi-language support X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 14:06:05 -0000 --000000000000e7d62d057ac8aa5f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nope. This is how Electrum treats BIP39 restoring as well, try it out. -Jon 2018=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8816=E6=97=A5(=E9=87=91) 23:04=E3=80=81Neill Miller = =E3=81=95=E3=82=93=EF=BC=88neillm@thecodefactory.org=EF=BC=89=E3=81=AE=E3= =83=A1=E3=83=83=E3=82=BB=E3=83=BC=E3=82=B8: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 02:17:30PM +0900, Jonathan Underwood via > bitcoin-dev wrote: > > If more apps would implement to the word of the BIP39 spec, multiple > > languages make sense, but since reality is no one follows the spec (/th= e > > spec is way too open to interpretation) then expecting every app to loa= d > > every language is unreasonable. > > > > Electrum actually handles BIP39 recovery the way the BIP specifies. I c= an > > restore random strings if I want, and it warns me, and I can ignore it > if I > > wish. > > Electrum mnemonics are not based on BIP39, which is why it can do > this. > > -Neill. > > --000000000000e7d62d057ac8aa5f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nope.

This i= s how Electrum treats BIP39 restoring as well, try it out.

-Jon

2018=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8816=E6=97=A5(=E9=87=91) 23:0= 4=E3=80=81Neill Miller =E3=81=95=E3=82=93=EF=BC=88neillm@thecodefactory.org=EF=BC=89=E3=81=AE=E3=83= =A1=E3=83=83=E3=82=BB=E3=83=BC=E3=82=B8:
On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 02:17:30PM +0900, Jonathan Underwood via bitc= oin-dev wrote:
> If more apps would implement to the word of the BIP39 spec, multiple > languages make sense, but since reality is no one follows the spec (/t= he
> spec is way too open to interpretation) then expecting every app to lo= ad
> every language is unreasonable.
>
> Electrum actually handles BIP39 recovery the way the BIP specifies. I = can
> restore random strings if I want, and it warns me, and I can ignore it= if I
> wish.

Electrum mnemonics are not based on BIP39, which is why it can do
this.

-Neill.

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